Author Topic: P-38 Pilots (Read 2992 times)

humble · « **Reply #15 on:** October 06, 2007, 03:41:36 PM »

I dont fly the 38 much but from my limited experience the stall is a result of the planes tremendous stability and docilness at high AoA. You keep pushing it and pushing it and when it departs its DEPARTS...normally when your way beyond what initially expected. It also is a flap dependent...if your flying it with flaps off by a notch it suprises you....normally I lose it when I'm worried about E state and cheat and suck a notch back in...

Of course the A-20 is much more stable the 38 so I get hamfisted if I go from the A-20 to the 38 since the A-20 needs to be "yanked around" a bit more....

If you've got the patience to learn it 38 is probably the best all around fighter (range/payload/ammo/furball/E fight/B&Z) combo in the game...

Spikes · « **Reply #16 on:** October 06, 2007, 04:19:14 PM »

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Originally posted by humble
(range/payload/ammo/furball/E fight/B&Z)

Yes!

The Range is great, ammo is the best part of it. 2000 rounds of MGs...

The G is a awesome furballer.

With its payload it is an awesome porker.

The L is able to BnZ very well to...

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #17 on:** October 06, 2007, 06:23:11 PM »

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Originally posted by SpikesX

The L is able to BnZ very well to...

The L is just as good if not better than the J. Whatever the J can do, the L can do just as well, if not better.

And all the P-38 models we have in the game can BnZ quite well. It's just not exclusive to the L model.

ack-ack

AirFlyer · « **Reply #18 on:** October 06, 2007, 06:26:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Widewing
...Large target...

Maybe it's just me, but when I'm on the six of a P-38 they seem to have a really thin height to them. So unless you get them on deflection shots, they never really look that big.

Spikes · « **Reply #19 on:** October 06, 2007, 06:28:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The L is just as good if not better than the J. Whatever the J can do, the L can do just as well, if not better.

And all the P-38 models we have in the game can BnZ quite well. It's just not exclusive to the L model.

ack-ack

During a DGS practice I flew a J and compressed even by diving slightly...

Of course this is at 30K, but still...

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #20 on:** October 06, 2007, 06:29:12 PM »

P-38s have a very slim profile, smaller than a lot of single engine fighters.

ack-ack

clerick · « **Reply #21 on:** October 06, 2007, 06:59:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The L is just as good if not better than the J. Whatever the J can do, the L can do just as well, if not better.

And all the P-38 models we have in the game can BnZ quite well. It's just not exclusive to the L model.

ack-ack

I do believe that the J has a sight advantage in turn radius.

Raptor · « **Reply #22 on:** October 06, 2007, 08:48:51 PM »

Spikes... no more input from you in public forums until the SAPP committee approves of it;)

Clerick, I am yet to see that. The only pilot flying a J I did not immediately outfly was akak, me in an L. Neither of us were really getting an advantage on the other. Started around 10k and ended up on the deck. Now in my mind I thought I was about to gain an advantage over akak, but just then a typhoon killed me:rolleyes:

Spikes · « **Reply #23 on:** October 06, 2007, 09:08:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Raptor
Spikes... no more input from you in public forums until the SAPP committee approves of it;)

Clerick, I am yet to see that. The only pilot flying a J I did not immediately outfly was akak, me in an L. Neither of us were really getting an advantage on the other. Started around 10k and ended up on the deck. Now in my mind I thought I was about to gain an advantage over akak, but just then a typhoon killed me:rolleyes:

Sir yes Sir

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #24 on:** October 07, 2007, 01:52:53 AM »

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Originally posted by clerick
I do believe that the J has a sight advantage in turn radius.

The difference is negligible and it won't be the deciding factor in the fight.

ack-ack

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #25 on:** October 07, 2007, 01:54:12 AM »

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Originally posted by SpikesX
During a DGS practice I flew a J and compressed even by diving slightly...

Of course this is at 30K, but still...

It would have done the same in the L or the G. And shame on your for getting your plane into a compressability state. You should know by now how to avoid it.

ack-ack

Spikes · « **Reply #26 on:** October 07, 2007, 10:14:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
It would have done the same in the L or the G. And shame on your for getting your plane into a compressability state. You should know by now how to avoid it.

ack-ack

Yes, I was in a duel with a 190 and I started to follow him into a dive...although when I started to shake I did engage dive flaps and pulled out.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #27 on:** October 07, 2007, 03:19:12 PM »

Ahhh...my dear SpikeX....

Next time, just chop throttle and use some rudder to slow you down in the dive and you'll be able to follow any running 190 in a dive.

ack-ack

Spikes · « **Reply #28 on:** October 07, 2007, 03:20:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Ahhh...my dear SpikeX....

Next time, just chop throttle and use some rudder to slow you down in the dive and you'll be able to follow any running 190 in a dive.

ack-ack

Yeah and he would have outran me.

Raptor · « **Reply #29 on:** October 07, 2007, 04:40:36 PM »

This is where being in a scenario is different than MA. In this scenario you are escorting bombers. The P38 has a higher top speed at 30k. If the 190 dives, don't follow it, because the 190 is no longer a threat. By the time the 190 climbs back up to 30k, the bombers will be far away.