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Offline Shifty

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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2009, 05:26:37 PM »
Pearl Harbor.

Not all of the US Naval ships that were damaged/destroyed were hit by the Japanese Zeros. If you knew your history, the Japanese assault force that hit the harbor was a mix of bombers and fighters.

I do know my history. I never said a word about Zeros at attacking ships in Pearl Harbor, you did. That shows how little you know about history. Lay off the movies and pick a book up and do some research on what the mission of the Zeros that attacked military installations in Hawaii on Dec 7Th. :lol The ships at anchor in Pearl on December 7Th were destroyed by a combination of torpedo bombing B5Ns, dive bombing D3As and yes level bombing B5Ns. The level bombing was successful only because the ships were at anchor.

What does Pearl Harbor have to do about heavy bombers anyway attacking a CV at sea anyway?

Name me one Aircraft Carrier sunk by heavy bombers doing level bombing... I don't want to hear about B-25s skip bombing Japanese shipping , or Lancasters bombing the Tirpitz at anchor.  While you're at it I'd really be interested to hear of any ship sunk at Pearl Harbor by a Zero. I can't wait for an answer from such an intelligent Fokker as yourself.


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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2009, 05:39:59 PM »
As long as you killed the target from OVER 10k you get the "name in lights", if under, you get nothing, not even point/perks   :devil  I hate dive bombing bombers!

I realize you meant this for dive-bombers, but I level-bomb CV's routinely at 8K because that is the magic alt where the auto-ack doesn't quite reach, but the 5" does. As for recognition for sinking a carrier... ehh. Whatever. I get enough as is.
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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2009, 05:40:18 PM »
Yeah I think the gunning needs to be tweaked...should count as a death if you get killed in one.

Gunner positions are not scored though. You get a kill count, but not for ranking/score. It's a bragging right that you Killed 5 in a Gunship/field gunner.
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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2009, 05:42:34 PM »
What about killing the CA and DDs? Don't want to forget them. :D
« Last Edit: July 06, 2009, 05:51:41 PM by Shifty »

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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2009, 05:52:26 PM »
Show me one example of a 4 engine bomber hitting a carrier from altitude and then we'll talk.

At Midway the B-17 crews claimed they had bombed 7 carriers, 7 battleships or cruisers, one destroyer and two transports.  They claimed 22 direct hits, 6 probable hits and 46 near misses out of 314 bombs dropped.

In reality they had two near misses, one on a Battleship and one on a transport and one possible hit on a destroyer.  They also forced one US Submarine to crash dive to avoid bombs dropped.

At Coral Sea the B17s out of Townsville, Australia managed to bomb a task force that included the HMS Australia.  Thankfully they missed.

In the end, 4 engine bombers were not cut out to bomb moving ships.

Of course Navy SBDs sank all 4 of the Japanese carriers at Midway, and got three of them in 5 minutes right after the B17s all missed completely.


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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2009, 06:26:36 PM »
Show me one example of a 4 engine bomber hitting a carrier from altitude and then we'll talk.


http://bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/history/tiropercatechism.html

or does it really have to be a carrier to qualify?  :rolleyes: I guess all the RAF hits to sink German pocket battle ships were agin non moving targets.

They did hit some during the channel dash but sunk none on that occasion.

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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2009, 06:40:49 PM »
http://bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/history/tiropercatechism.html

or does it really have to be acarrier to qualify  :rolleyes:



How about at sea under power. Level bombing a ship at anchor is no different from level bombing a building.
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By the way how are things in Brackely?  I still hope to get there again one day.  :aok

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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2009, 06:52:05 PM »
How about at sea under power. By the way how are things in Brackely?  I still hope to get there again one day.  :aok

Point taken I was probably guilty of some rule infringement.

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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2009, 07:01:23 PM »
 I was stationed at Upper Heyford from 1980-1983.
I lived in Towceister for about for a year, then Hook Norton for a year, and then moved on base.
While in Hook Norton I visted Bandbury regularly. While in Towceister, I visted Brackley regularly. In fact I bought a car in Brackley.

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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2009, 07:39:52 PM »

    Only if you sink 2 or more CVs in one sorti, at least that takes a tiny bit of skill.

How do you know this isn't implemented already?

 :noid

I've done lots of captures in C47s and M3s.  It takes almost no skill at all (except hiding).  And the capture is almost entirely the work of the various people who took down the town, ack, and defenders.  I don't think the M3 or C47 drivers deserve their name in lights.

Good for you.  Because, they don't get their names in lights as it is now.

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Re: Landing buffs after dropping a CV
« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2009, 11:34:49 PM »
Good for you.  Because, they don't get their names in lights as it is now.
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I know.  I was replying to Tilts post that suggested they should.