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Offline NHawk

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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2007, 01:07:12 PM »
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:cry :cry :cry

That is all this thread is about.  "I can't fly my eL gAy-7." :cry  "I can't fly my spitoon-16." :cry  "I can't pwn jo n00bs in my l337 h4X0r pane." :cry "Hitech the other two countries are ganging up on us." :cry

Learn to fly all types of planes, so that if you do run into an ENY issue you won't be tempted to post :cry threads.
You need to chill.

The M.A.W. have probably been around since before you knew flight sims existed. And I'm sure he's reached a preference for what plane he flies as I have in my 11 year + sim carreer. And speaking for myself I've flown every plane available and my preference is never an LA, Spit or N1k. When I can't fly my plane of choice because of ENY, I just don't fly.

And if you took the time to look you'd find he doesn't fly those planes either.

When a M.A.W. quits, it's a blow to the community. BigB

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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2007, 01:26:55 PM »
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I understand that ENY or some other feature is needed for side balancing, but ENY can have unintended consequences.  Country A player logs on to find the scenario detailed above.  Hmm... do I fight B or C.  C has no La7s or Spit16s.  Hmm...  C it is.  Inadvertently, ENY has contributed to the ganging of C.



If i'm country A just signing on why in the world would I want to change countries???? I'm already on one of the countries undermanned (no ENY trouble), and if I choose to fight against country C I know I'm not going against any LA's and Spit 16s.

EMY isn't here to "even the numbers" its here to handycap the team with the higher numbers by taking away the more "uber" rides.  It works pretty good.....look at all the whines  :)

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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2007, 01:27:31 PM »
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You need to chill.

The M.A.W. have been around since before you knew flight sims existed. And I'm sure he's reached a preference for what plane he flies as I have in my 11 year + sim carreer. And speaking for myself I've flown every plane available and my preference is never an LA, Spit or N1k. When I can't fly my plane of choice because of ENY, I just don't fly.

When a M.A.W. quits, it's a blow to the community. BigB


1.) I'm frosty as a glacier.  (I just never have enough cheese for these threads.)

2.) I started on FS, back when I had a Commodore 64, in 83. (OH SNAP!)

3.) If your favorite plane is out due to ENY, and you don't fly.  That is your choice.

4.) My don't you have an inflated opinion of your squads importance in this game.

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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2007, 01:34:32 PM »
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4.) My don't you have an inflated opinion of your squads importance in this game.
My squad has nothing to do with this. But if you want to drag us in, that's fine. I've watched 20 members of my squad with 10 years+ time leave because of nonsense like ENY and other things in AH.

If you count all of the old timers that have quit, regardless of squad affiliation, you'd find it's a huge number.

And the attitude you portraid wasn't called for.
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2007, 01:37:57 PM »
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4.) My don't you have an inflated opinion of your squads importance in this game.


I think they are important to the game. to those squads that have shown that kind of commitment over the years.
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2007, 01:41:24 PM »
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My squad has nothing to do with this.

But if you count all of the old timers that have quit, regardless of squad affiliation, you'd find it's a huge number.

And the attitude you portraid is probably part of why they are quiting .


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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2007, 01:47:41 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2007, 01:49:27 PM »
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2007, 02:00:17 PM »
The ENY system is so F'ed up.Last night knights has 30 people more then the lowest country(Bish) we had an ENY on 21ish Rooks have 30 people more then the lower country(knights) they have and ENY of 10 or less.If this ENY crap is going to stay atleast make it so it's the same thing for al the countries Bish have it the worst the had like 20 more people then the lowers and their eny was 15ish.

ENY is the lamest thing.at an ENY of 29 people cant fly anything but crap fighters while the other country fly's spit16 and LA's...This of it like this if ENy was in WW2 hittler may not have shot himself :aok :rofl.
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2007, 02:03:25 PM »
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My squad has nothing to do with this. But if you want to drag us in, that's fine. I've watched 20 members of my squad with 10 years+ time leave because of nonsense like ENY and other things in AH.

If you count all of the old timers that have quit, regardless of squad affiliation, you'd find it's a huge number.

And the attitude you portraid wasn't called for.


Would you not agree that much of that is normal attrition though?  Of all the folks i started flying with all those years ago in AW, there aren't that many left.

People come and go.  That's just part of the landscape.  To blame it on this part of the game or that part doesn't fit for me.

Why can i still have fun in the game if it's so broken?  I've got 11 years in and I'm still having a great time.

Isn't it on the individual player to bring the right attitude and approach to the game?

I do know that the times where I had to step back from the game I found that I was seeing things in the game to blame for what in the end was just my needing a break.
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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2007, 02:06:47 PM »
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1) I have LIMITED time to play...maybe an hour a week

2) I have a squad I like to fly with, we are rarely on at same time, So if they a show up Id like to be where we fly KNIGHTS!!

3)I get denied flying planes I enjoy.


We are at a base with larger red Dar bars then we have...and I'm getting restricted on what planes I fly.


This ENY thing is horrible, for the people like me with a limited time to play and enjoy the plane we like to fly.


I am letting my account close.

This is my only way to show my dismay on a game I really enjoy, and have been a paying customer since AW died. Its a dam shame.


Not trying to be mean about it, but what you are suggesting is the game be revamped to fit that hour a week you want to play so you can play it just the way you want to play it.

Considering the numbers of players in the game and the amount many others fly without complaint, it seems like an awful lot to do for that one hour.

And if your squad is close, then switching countries shouldn't be that big a deal cause the fun is flying with your buddies, not a chess piece.
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2007, 02:08:55 PM »
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Would you not agree that much of that is normal attrition though?  Of all the folks i started flying with all those years ago in AW, there aren't that many left....
In the case of those I speak of, no. I still talk with many of them on a daily basis and their reasons are valid. They'd still be flying if it weren't for certain changes to AH including ENY. Some come back from time to time to see if things are any different. And when they do, they leave as quickly as they came.
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« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2007, 02:13:52 PM »
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In the case of those I speak of, no. I still talk with many of them on a daily basis and their reasons are valid. They'd still be flying if it weren't for certain changes to AH including ENY. Some come back from time to time to see if things are any different. And when they do, they leave as quickly as they came.



hmmm.  I guess being a 38G driver, and willing to go to the low numbers country with my squad has made it much easier to keep going then.  ENY has not affected my flying at all.

I'm not sure why folks don't do that more.  The fights are the same regardless of which chess piece you are flying for or against in my experience.

I agree that the key is being able to fly with your friends.  I've always been able to do that.

I guess flexibilty and a willingness to adapt are helpful:aok

Not trying to be sarcastic btw, I just find that it's still on me to find the fun and I still can.
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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2007, 02:22:10 PM »
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...Not trying to be sarcastic btw, I just find that it's still on me to find the fun and I still can.
I'm not taking it a sarcastic. Not at all. :)

I still find fun in flying and it's the only reason I'm still here. I fly mostly in a defensive roll.

And because of that, I can also see BigB's and others point of view. If they are going to pay for an online sim, they should be able to fly the plane they like regardless of the number of people in the arena or the country they fly for. It happens to many times while a country is hording another country that some are trying to defend against the third country and they are being penalized by ENY. That is the unfairness in ENY.
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2007, 02:27:36 PM »
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It happens to many times while a country is hording another country that some are trying to defend against the third country and they are being penalized by ENY. That is the unfairness in ENY.


The problem is: No ENY at all - unfairness on a global scale and every time, instead of some local unfairness now and then.
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