Police not allowed to ask citizenship

[Stringer]

Originally posted by Xargos
All illegals should be hung as spies.

And all Americans who employ them hung as traitors.....

[JB73]

Originally posted by RedTop
There is so much racial B.S. in that story that it makes me sick.

thank you sir!

Originally posted by Chairboy
Let's disconnect this from illegal immigration for a second.

If you were walking down the street and a police officer stopped you (Caucasian you) and said "Your papers", expecting you to produce your passport or birth certificate, would you be ok with that?

horrible try at a hijack.

what it the world does that have to do with officers investigating a CRIME (yes even lowly traffic stops are crimes) not being allowed to even check / ask / anything related to the perp being a citizen?

this has nothing to do at all with "random street paper checks"


leave your dumb imaginary exaggerated situations to yourself.

[Xargos]

We have people who are in this country legally who need our help.  I am tired of illegals taking medical care, police protection, education and food from Americans whom should always come first.

[Viking]

JB73, to my knowledge you are not required by law to produce any ID or even give the police your name unless the police actually arrest you for a crime (or traffic violation). In fact I don't think you are required to even have any form of identity papers in your country.

Though, I agree with you that the police should at least be able to ask the question, even if they are not entitled to an answer.

[Toad]

Hiya Beet1e!

Bored again, eh?

[JB73]

Originally posted by Toad
Hiya Beet1e!

Bored again, eh?

oh snap! It might be


GS, this goes a bit back to something that happened here I should have linked to. about a week or 2 ago some INS raided a few homes in the south side of Milwaukee, taking away some illegals who had been found out by cops after a high speed chase or something...

this relates not just to asking about ID, it's about oh say they catch a guy breaking into a store, arrest him, and they can not ask or attempt to check if he is a legal or illegal alien.

we have one of the largest growing populations of both Hmong and Latinos in the Midwest. there should be simple checks in place.

[Viking]

Who might be Beetle?

[JB73]

Originally posted by Viking
Who might be Beetle?

do a smiple search of the posters you do not know in this thread, and see how and where they have replied

[Mark Luper]

Originally posted by Viking
Who might be Beetle?

My vote says *******. The only one in the thread I don't know.

Mark

[Bodhi]

the sad thing about all this is I agree... illegal immigrants suck, but we (people who think like I do) are fugged.  We will support our officers of the law checking our national status... but we are going to be criminals while the same infrastructure that we supported removes our birth given rights.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Chairboy
If they presented a fake license, why would border patrol be needed?  This is the point you haven't answered, M36.

Because that is a citable offense not one requiring jail. Even if they went to jail that does not mean that BP would be called. False information is not uncommon from suspects of any nationality. If they went to the jail they would not be deported by the jail, only by BP. The jail is only a County facility and holds prisoners, they do not deport.

[rpm]

Obviously, you guys have not heard of the policy in Irving, Texas.

On Sept. 26, some 2,000 people rallied at City Hall in Irving, Texas, a suburb west of Dallas, to demand that Irving officials stop handing over people held at the city's jail to immigration authorities.

Irving police have turned over at least 1,600 people to ICE since June 2006 under the"Criminal Alien Program," which targets immigrants accused of crimes. Opponents of the program say the Irving police engage in racial profiling; that people stopped for minor traffic infractions are being handed over to ICE; and that the policy has made local residents fear contacting police. The week of Sept. 17, Mexican Consul Enrique Hubbard Urrea warned immigrants from his country to avoid Irving, Texas.

[M36]

If they presented a fake license, why would border patrol be needed? This is the point you haven't answered, M36.

You originally didn't ask that question, chairboy.  Like Mav said, write them a criminal ticket, call BP and have them deported. I did not write them tickets and let them go. BP is readily available here, but in other states it is not. There, they do not have the option of BP and have to either book them or let them go. Either way tickets or no tickets, BP is called and they respond.

[Rino]

How about we pull out of NAFTA till Mexico stops facilitating illegal immigration
into the US?  I do so enjoy our poisonous atmosphere concerning criminals...
golly, it must be wrong to actually punish them

     Of course the usual suspects will side with their ethnic brothers and sisters,
with no concern at all for the morality part of the equation.

[storch]

here's an interesting bit of news.  we thank FDR for the current illegal immigration condition.  during WWII and as part of his "good neighbor" initiative FDR implemented the Brasero Project where migrant farm workers from the mexico and central america were invited to come help provide the man power necessary in the agricultural sector.  sugar cane harvesters from jamaica were brought to the florida sugar cane fields at the same time.  I attempted to look this up on the web and could find nothing on it yet it occurred.  I suspect that perhaps mention of this today would be poor press for the democratic party.

in other news florida citrus growers cannot compete with citrus products imported from brasil and africa due to the much higher labor costs the florida growers must bear.  it's cheaper for publix and winn dixie to purchase the fruit and juices from far away lands than to buy them in their home state.

tell me again why we don't need the evil evil migrants?