Change bomber calibration times

[Rich46yo]

I wonder what the purpose is of needing such long times to calibrate a bombers bombsight? Heres the scenario, your coming into a target and calibrate in plenty of time. However your in need of a course change, which changes your speed and causes a need for recalibration. So now you have to wait for your speed to come back up, or, play with the rpm to level it, and then you have to spend all that time in bombsight recalibrating. At least a minute to get perfect calibration to hit a hangar sized target.

                          And the faster the bomber the worse it gets. In the AR-234 sometimes you have to spend your entire bomb run calibrating. I had 3 of them shot down last night cause I was in the bombsight trying to recalibrate and never saw the bogey coming down on me.

                        And I dont much care about that. Its just a cartoon game and I have plenty of perk points. But whats the point of needing to calibrate so much? Why not write the program to calibrate perfectly after 5 seconds?

[TUXC]

Interesting. While I don't fly bombers much these days, I'm usually good to go with a 15sec calibration, even in a Ar234 doing ~400mph. Usually getting my speed relatively stable takes longer than calibrating. Maybe try going to the TA and checking to see if there's any offset between the green training crosshairs and your bombsight? If there's a consistent offset, then just compensate for it by dropping slightly early or late, or adjust your speed a couple mph above or below calibrated airspeed so you'll always drop on target. One of the dedicated bomber pilots on here can probably answer this better.

If you have to change course, perhaps try doing the course change from the bombardiers position. It will take longer to adjust course, but it won't throw off your calibration.

If anything, I've always thought the current calibration is a little on the easy side since it allows for precision bombing small targets like AA guns and radar towers from high alt.

Edit: Changing it back to the old style calibration might not be the best solution, since it would require a lot of skill and may frustrate newer players. A possible change that I just thought of could be a variable error that would depend on how long you calibrate for. 15sec calibration and your bombs would hit a town size target, 30sec and you could hit within a certain group of buildings in a town, 45sec for a hanger size targets, and 1min to precision bomb the smallest targets like vehicles. The amount of error could be displayed as a +/- value in the calibrated speed and altitude values. The errors would get smaller the longer you held down the y key for. This method would not require much more skill than the current method, but would necessitate patience and good planning for hitting small targets.

[Rich46yo]

Changing direction from the bombsight position also creates roll, which also changes speed. None of this makes hitting a target impossible, what it does is require a bomber stick to spend way to much time in the bomb sight.

                              Yeah sure you can request a gunner. But gunners dont always come and how many guys like to take on a gunner they dont even know?

                             Its easy to bomb with the offset "X" in the TA because you have an X to offset. But in any other arena you dont have that X so if your not calibrated perfectly then your just guessing.

                           In my bombers any calibration of less then one minute is pretty much useless and is more likely to make you worse off them better.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
I wonder what the purpose is of needing such long times to calibrate a bombers bombsight? Heres the scenario, your coming into a target and calibrate in plenty of time. However your in need of a course change, which changes your speed and causes a need for recalibration. So now you have to wait for your speed to come back up, or, play with the rpm to level it, and then you have to spend all that time in bombsight recalibrating. At least a minute to get perfect calibration to hit a hangar sized target.

                          And the faster the bomber the worse it gets. In the AR-234 sometimes you have to spend your entire bomb run calibrating. I had 3 of them shot down last night cause I was in the bombsight trying to recalibrate and never saw the bogey coming down on me.

                        And I dont much care about that. Its just a cartoon game and I have plenty of perk points. But whats the point of needing to calibrate so much? Why not write the program to calibrate perfectly after 5 seconds?

Our current calibration system is almost as easy as it could be. Arguably the most "unrealistic" feature we have in game. Perfectly calibration by pressing a single button for 10 seconds, no wind, even altitude recalibration within a split-second (by just entering & leavin calibration mode).

I do not see ANY reason to further reduing the requirements to hit a single target right on point but the desire to make the game even easier.

Heck, even the old calibration system (changed a few years ago but often still activated in AvA & SEA) with it's requirement of tracking a point on the landscape was unrealistically precise.

[Scca]

Since your forum id isn't your gamid, I can't see your bomber scores, but I suspect you are in need of some training time.  I don't fly bombers often, but I can say that I never calibrate for more than 30 seconds, and can destroy hangers on salvo one 99% of the time.

The key I found is being level, doors open and speed stable before the dar circle.  Not going full speed helps..

[Tiger]

I say being back the old calibration, and add wind back in too.

Current bomb calibration is too easy.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Scca
Since your forum id isn't your gamid

Psssst... it's hidden in his sig line

[Scca]

Originally posted by Lusche
Psssst... it's hidden in his sig line

(smacks head) DOH!
You a sly dog Lusche.....a sly dog....
Tx

[Lusche]

woof-woof

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by Scca
Since your forum id isn't your gamid, I can't see your bomber scores, but I suspect you are in need of some training time.  I don't fly bombers often, but I can say that I never calibrate for more than 30 seconds, and can destroy hangers on salvo one 99% of the time.

The key I found is being level, doors open and speed stable before the dar circle.  Not going full speed helps..

                         Theres always one isn't there?

                          My game ID is in my signature. I'd rather be lousy at calibration then to not be able to be able to read a signature. Maybe you need TA time in both bombers and signature reading.

                         And if you dont fly bombers then why are you even here posting?

                         Calibrating for 10 seconds is pretty worthless. But I spend countless hours a month in bombers so what would I know?

                      This is a wishlist forum room guys. This is the kind of thing were supposed to post here. Allowing for quicker calibration times takes nothing away from the game nor does it give any edge to bomber sticks Frankly If you need a bomber stick to be in a bombsight in order to shoot them down then you need serious TA time in fighters.

                    And while Im at it why does AH even have a wishlist forum room if anyone who does any "wishing" is pounced on by the various Red Barons as "complaining"?

                    Thats all I was doing guys, was asking for quicker calibration times.

[TUXC]

bombrich,

Please relax. You asked to not have to calibrate for a minute to hit your targets, and when some people who have been playing the game longer than you have offered some advice so that you could hit targets after only 10-20sec of calibration you gave them attitude in return. Just because someone doesn't fly only bombers in the game doesn't mean they don't know how to operate them. The topic of this thread was bombsight calibration and it has stayed on that topic. No "Red Barons," as you call them, have hijacked your thread and whined about bombers being too tough or having uber laser-rocket guns. A few people simply said that calibration seems a little too easy in the game, and once you've mastered it I'm sure you'll agree.

I understand that you are really into flying bombers, and that's cool. But please try to not get so worked up whenever you think a fighter dweeb is complaining about bombers in the game. From looking at your scores it seems like you have almost no time in fighters since you started playing. It might be worthwhile for you to become proficient in fighters to see for yourself what it's like to intercept bombers from the other side. This could also give you some new ideas for anti-fighter tactics in bombers. The learning curve is much steeper for fighters than it is for bombers, which can be very frustrating at times, but there are many people in the game who are willing to help.

-tuxc123

[Scca]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
Theres always one isn't there?

                          My game ID is in my signature. I'd rather be lousy at calibration then to not be able to be able to read a signature. Maybe you need TA time in both bombers and signature reading.

                         And if you dont fly bombers then why are you even here posting?

                         Calibrating for 10 seconds is pretty worthless. But I spend countless hours a month in bombers so what would I know?

                      This is a wishlist forum room guys. This is the kind of thing were supposed to post here. Allowing for quicker calibration times takes nothing away from the game nor does it give any edge to bomber sticks Frankly If you need a bomber stick to be in a bombsight in order to shoot them down then you need serious TA time in fighters.

                    And while Im at it why does AH even have a wishlist forum room if anyone who does any "wishing" is pounced on by the various Red Barons as "complaining"?

                    Thats all I was doing guys, was asking for quicker calibration times.

Actually, I was trying to help you overcome what seems to be an issue few others seem to have.  As a matter of fact, most people feel bombing is a no brainer that should be made more difficult if anything.  It wasn't a flame.  

If you would re-read what I wrote, I said I don't fly bombers often (perhaps it's off to the remedial English TA for you )

Seriously, if they made level bombing any simpler than it is, it wouldn't be worth having.  As I said, I can drop hanger from 15K with salvo 1, no problem.  Lusche doesn’t do bad either, and he says he calibrates for 10 seconds.  

With exception, there is no problem with putting things on the "wishlist".  Just realize, if you ask for something like this, you may get dissenting opinions, and as in my case, a suggestion on how to overcome what challenges you.

Regarding your personal attack because I missed your cryptic gaimid disclosure, I suggest you reconsider how you address people that are attempting to assist you.

[Rich46yo]

I didnt ask for assistance tho did I?

                         The game is a "no brainer" for that matter. Flying a cartoon fighter is a "no brainer" tho some of you guys think your Baron Von Brownpants in his Albatros D-lll. None of this requires a Harvard trained rocket scientist. And why would anyone care if I asked for a faster calibration time? What does it matter? And why would anyone dissent? Who cares??

                       And you can probably tell this isnt the first time Ive posted a "wish" in the wishlist forum and gotten a bunch of condescending horse crap.

                      Dude you could wish for anything and I wouldnt care. Go ahead, wish away. This is a "wishlist forum" and as far as Im concerned you can wish for anything you want.

                    I dont like flying fighters. I like flying bombers, and as far as I can see any idiot could fly a fighter. "learning curve is much steeper"?

                    Another thread hijacked and ruined.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
I didnt ask for assistance tho did I?

                         The game is a "no brainer" for that matter. Flying a cartoon fighter is a "no brainer" tho some of you guys think your Baron Von Brownpants in his Albatros D-lll. None of this requires a Harvard trained rocket scientist. And why would anyone care if I asked for a faster calibration time? What does it matter? And why would anyone dissent? Who cares??

                       And you can probably tell this isnt the first time Ive posted a "wish" in the wishlist forum and gotten a bunch of condescending horse crap.

                      Dude you could wish for anything and I wouldnt care. Go ahead, wish away. This is a "wishlist forum" and as far as Im concerned you can wish for anything you want.

                    I dont like flying fighters. I like flying bombers, and as far as I can see any idiot could fly a fighter. "learning curve is much steeper"?

                    Another thread hijacked and ruined.

Sorry, but you REALLY have to check your attitude. Many a posting of yours has caused some sort of raised eyebrows on my side.

You are very sensitive to even slight dissenting opinions. Every time someone seems not to agree with you you,  you are acting as if there was some kind of personal attack. Many a thread in the past was actually ruined by a rather rude attitude of yours, and often your overly "serious" approach let you miss even harmless tonge-in-cheek jokes.
You should consider both posting as well as reading other peoples post more lighthearted.  People have different opinons, sometimes wrong, sometimes right. You also have to accept that you are still pretty new at this game, and many people have opinions resulting from years of experience and, plain said: much more knowledge than you have yet.

 Your currently attitude is rather appropriate for a 14yo "know-it-all-after-two-weeks".
Step down a bit. Relax. Accept dissenting opinions. Be a bit less arrogant. You will gain alot of respect and will have  alot more fun this way.

Now back to our scheduled program...

[comet61]

I usually calibrate between 2-9 seconds...then wait for the crosshair to just pass the target. I usually hit/destroy 9 out of 10 times if not more. The 234 is no different, however, in most bombers bringing down the manifold  a couple of notches does help accuracy.


Rich...I must agree with the others....you need to relax and take things with a grain of salt.