Change bomber calibration times

[thndregg]

Not to sidestep the point, but I do wish the old calibration method (that was killed over three years ago) was back in use. Current method still is too simple.

[SAS_KID]

The current calibration method is way to easy... If I even miss a radar at 30k then I must of fallen asleep on the stick. But currently it is real easy to bomb from extreme altitudes and hit with pinpoint accuracy. Making it even easier to drop a bomb would just make it even possible for a 6 year old to bomb. Although 12 year olds can do it with ease already.

[Ghosth]

Rich, LISTEN to Lusche, he is Old and Wise in the ways of the force.

No one is lording it over you, no one is being condescending, yet you react as if we are. Your picking on the guys who are trying to help is going to have bad results down the line. You already have me asking myself "why bother helping this guy".

And before you put down anyone flying a fighter lets see you fly one for a tour.
Its NOT as easy as it looks, as a matter of fact its much harder than bombing.

As for the help you say you ask for, yet dislike accepting when tis offered.

Instead of calibrating so long, make sure speed is stable BEFORE you calibrate.
Then 10 seconds and a slight speed adjustment should put you right on target.

[Scca]

Originally posted by Ghosth
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As for the help you say you ask for, yet dislike accepting when tis offered.

I think that's the point here Ghosth.  He didn't ask for help, he just posted something on the wishlist and expected no comments would follow despite the fact his wish was already something so simplistic a dog could do it successfully.

It's the mark of a child, everyone should let him be.  One day, after hair is growing under his arms he will look back and see the error of his ways.  

Bombrich, practice saying "Would you like fry’s with that?".  With your current attitude, it will be phrase you will be using the rest of your life.

For now, all I can say is .squelch bombrich

[The Fugitive]

Rich, nobody is trying to give you a hard time, its the opposite, they are trying to help!

In my case, I only have an hour and a half in bombers this camp, but my hit percentage is over 500%. I NEVER calibrate more than 10 seconds.  I hit towns and VHs, but I'll hit a strat if its on the way  

So by your post its seems more likely that your having trouble hitting what your aiming for because, as this lowly fighter jock shows, I can hit pretty hard with quick calibrations from 12k. Thats what most of these other guys are saying too. They just want to help, if by helping to figure where your having trouble, you can increase the fun your having by hitting that much better.

[WMLute]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
I dont like flying fighters. I like flying bombers, and as far as I can see any idiot could fly a fighter. "learning curve is much steeper"?

bombrich, I can train a chimp to level bomb with high accuracy the way HTC has it set now.

Flying bombers and driving GV's are two incredibly easy things to learn how to do in AcesHigh. Their simplicity is one of the reasons you find many new players (such as yourself) flying bombers and driving tanks. (my opinion is this is how HiTech wants it, as bombers and ground vehicles are merely sideshows to the "point" of this game which is Aerial Combat)

Learning and becoming proficient at Aerial Combat takes years and untold hours of practice and dedication.

The reason you are hearing so many dissenting opinions to your 'wish' is you are asking HTC to take something quite simple and easy to do/learn and make it even easier.

For me anyway, 1/2 the fun of this game is how long it takes to get "good" at it. If learning to fly/fight was easy, it wouldn't be near as much "fun"

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
And why would anyone care if I asked for a faster calibration time? What does it matter? And why would anyone dissent? Who cares??

Because it is an issue that affects overall arena play.  The level of difficulty required to destroy targets from alt has been adjusted a number of times over the years for that reason.  It has also been adjusted with consideration to being easy enough for new players to catch on to.  We know what it's like with little or no prep time/effort/knowledge for accurate level bombing because it's already been done.  The current MA conditions are actually already dumbed down in that regard.

Lusche has saved me the trouble of further comments.

[Solar10]

Am I ever glad Rich went Rook!

[Tilt]

Calibration is just so simple and accurate (particularly when referenced to the E6B) that there is absolutely no need to make it easier.

If your calibrated air speed matches the E6B thru the point of release all you had to do is recalibrate to set your height a count of 5-8 will often do this without giving a false air speed.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by Lusche
Sorry, but you REALLY have to check your attitude. Many a posting of yours has caused some sort of raised eyebrows on my side.

You are very sensitive to even slight dissenting opinions. Every time someone seems not to agree with you you,  you are acting as if there was some kind of personal attack. Many a thread in the past was actually ruined by a rather rude attitude of yours, and often your overly "serious" approach let you miss even harmless tonge-in-cheek jokes.
You should consider both posting as well as reading other peoples post more lighthearted.  People have different opinions, sometimes wrong, sometimes right. You also have to accept that you are still pretty new at this game, and many people have opinions resulting from years of experience and, plain said: much more knowledge than you have yet.

 Your currently attitude is rather appropriate for a 14yo "know-it-all-after-two-weeks".
Step down a bit. Relax. Accept dissenting opinions. Be a bit less arrogant. You will gain alot of respect and will have  alot more fun this way.

Now back to our scheduled program...

                      Lusche I'll reply to you since Ive always respected you.

                      Remind me of the threads Ive ruined cause I cant seem to recall any of them. Ive always been respectful of others tho im fairly short with rude fools. Im not talking of any of one of you fighter flying chimps btw. I actually have a rather dim-witted German Shepard, no offense Lusche, that I taught to fly a fighter in short order. If it makes you feel any better hes only 3/4 German and 1/4 Bulgarian. "The arrogance comes from his German side tho". BTW he's 14yo.

                    I guess I should have directed my comments to Scca by name then all of you wouldnt have jumped in. Naww you would have anyway. Maybe he just needs training time and after checking his scores Im sure of it. "just kidding dude".

                  C'mon guys. It was a simple post in the wishlist forum.

                  Maybe it was just misunderstanding from the vagaries of the printed word? For my part I will apologize if I offended anyone. Im just a very direct person and it comes out harder in print then it does in real life.

                If anyone says their intent was to help then I'll believe it and Im sorry for turning the flames up in the oven. Scca thank you for wanting to help. It was not my intent to turn the thread into a flame war.

             You gotta admit tho, "Baron Von Brownpants" was a good one wasnt it?

[Solar10]

I think those that you call "fighter chimps" find it easier to get a calibration and hit targets than you, and see no need for a change to an already simplistic calibration method.  I would agree with them and indeed call for the old method to be brought back.

So just as you wish, others wish not!  That's the way it goes in this forum.

[Tilt]

You dont even need the speed stable for any longer than it takes to pass the cross hairs over target.

1) in the bomb sight call up E6b and enlarge and position so that the speed is just below your cross hairs. This is so when you zoom in you can still read the 2nd line on the E6B

2)Calibrate whilst also watching the 2nd line of your E6b.
3)Your calibration speed and the 2nd line on your E6b have to match as you release the bombs (exactly!) Trick is to set the calibration just as you approach target and slow down to it using your E6B holding the two the same for the few seconds you release.

This way you can pick off any thing on the field you know the location of from 30K................if you really want to.

[Motherland]

Honestly, rich, it sounds like the problem lay in you: it doesnt sound like your giving enough time for speed to stabilize, or you calibrate without the doors being open.

[Spikes]

I usually always keep my calibration speed the same, and adjust my throttle to my calibration speed.

[Stoney74]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
I wonder what the purpose is of needing such long times to calibrate a bombers bombsight?

You do realize how it worked in real life don't you?  Even with the Norden bombsite, the bombadier had a mulitude of calculations to perform running in on the target.  And, as is the case in AH, the drop speed dialed into the very complicated slide rule that was the Norden, had to match the speed the aircraft was flying, or the math didn't work.  So, amidst turbulence created by flak, winds, and other factors, the bombadier had to setup the drop, then tell the pilot what speed to fly the plane at.  He had a joystick to provide control inputs to the autopilot to line up the cross hairs of the sight on the target.  It was, and still is a very complicated process, so much so that the USAAF considered 30% of all bombs dropped within a certain vicinity of the aimpoint to be a successful drop.  Even today, dropping unguided bombs from altitude on a point target is a complicated exercise in geometry.

In AH, there is one simple rule to dropping precisely and that is matching your calibration speed to your drop speed.  If you're twisting and turning going into the target, or still accelerating from leveling off, it will affect your accuracy.  If you line up on the target at a distance so that you'll only have to make miniscule changes in direction, and you are at a stable speed, your calibration time should only be seconds.