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Offline Rich46yo

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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2007, 09:18:35 PM »
Fellas thank you for the advice. So far tonight I dont think Ive missed one target, including a few CVs, and multiple fighters. I am becoming a very good bomber stick. And I do love flying bombers, most of all my beloved B-26s.

                    Whats my new secret? Who knows? But I am doing almost all my turning in the bombsight , or, the F3 view of my top turret.

                    Ive had technical problems crop up from time to time that I haven't figured out. Things like bombing short when everything is perfect, or, some airplanes going haywire control-wise. I dont know whats going on. The bombing sequence is so easy even a long tailed monkey like I can figure it out. There are some days I just cant keep calibration and who knows why? But all is good now so Im going to roll with it.


                And there are 4 or 5 fighter sticks tonight that learned the B-26 isn't as vulnerable to the belly as they thought.
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2007, 10:29:01 PM »
I don't know if you're a one pass/haul butt kind of guy...One thing if you salvo only a portion of your bombs is that the reduced weight decreases the induced drag on the plane, and will therefore increase your speed at the same throttle setting.  So, if you've still got a couple of eggs left on your second run, remember to recal your speed (and you probably gained some altitude as well while the autopilot retrimmed your plane).  It will induce a small amount of error in your second, third, etc. drop.

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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2007, 12:11:10 AM »
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I don't know if you're a one pass/haul butt kind of guy...One thing if you salvo only a portion of your bombs is that the reduced weight decreases the induced drag on the plane, and will therefore increase your speed at the same throttle setting.  So, if you've still got a couple of eggs left on your second run, remember to recal your speed (and you probably gained some altitude as well while the autopilot retrimmed your plane).  It will induce a small amount of error in your second, third, etc. drop.


                             No Im a "stay until dead or out of eggs" type of guy. I dont care about scores, or stats, or anything like that and that's probably why I flared when I had someone checking into my scores. I mean who cares? Scores mean nothing. Unfortunately there are times when it is just impossible to bomb a target due to enemy fighters being so thick.

                           And one thing I do try and do is recalibrate after each pass. Your right, speed does change and throws you way off.

                         I guess one of the reasons I love the B-26, and I have far more then one, is because it turns so well and gives you tighter runs with extra time to calibrate. Thank you sir for your kind advice.
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2007, 12:31:26 AM »
Get fighter cover, go in at high alt, get an escort, go to a different base, get a gunner.
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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2007, 06:01:52 AM »
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Because it is an issue that affects overall arena play.  


And having the ability to up a dozen 262's and another dozen 163's at one target doesnt? :rofl

I kind of get what Rich is saying. When your in the bomb run around the strats you get swarmed by twin hoovers and rocket boys...which is about as realistic as having no individual  gunners and a bombardeer other than the one player manning it all. I think this ballance should be looked at. Maybe limit the numbers of these unstopable aircraft to two or three in the air at any given time to give some semblance of reality. As it is now, when the bardar , field dar goes off near a strat target, the nearest large airfield looks and sounds like Laguardia. :D
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2007, 06:36:53 AM »
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Heck, even the old calibration system (changed a few years ago but often still activated in AvA & SEA) with it's requirement of tracking a point on the landscape was unrealistically precise.


Er, what? I'm still doing the track a point on the landscape thing. Has it changed?

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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2007, 07:01:42 AM »
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Er, what? I'm still doing the track a point on the landscape thing. Has it changed?

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I guess...  It's been that way since I started about a year ago.  Tracking isn't necessary, just hold the "Y" key..
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2007, 07:08:12 AM »
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Er, what? I'm still doing the track a point on the landscape thing. Has it changed?

Trip


Three years ago.

But the text in bombsight could have given you a hint ;)
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2007, 07:09:17 AM »
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Lusche I'll reply to you since Ive always respected you.

                      Remind me of the threads Ive ruined cause I cant seem to recall any of them. Ive always been respectful of others tho im fairly short with rude fools. Im not talking of any of one of you fighter flying chimps btw. I actually have a rather dim-witted German Shepard, no offense Lusche, that I taught to fly a fighter in short order. If it makes you feel any better hes only 3/4 German and 1/4 Bulgarian. "The arrogance comes from his German side tho". BTW he's 14yo.

                    I guess I should have directed my comments to Scca by name then all of you wouldnt have jumped in. Naww you would have anyway. Maybe he just needs training time and after checking his scores Im sure of it. "just kidding dude".

                  C'mon guys. It was a simple post in the wishlist forum.

                  Maybe it was just misunderstanding from the vagaries of the printed word? For my part I will apologize if I offended anyone. Im just a very direct person and it comes out harder in print then it does in real life.

                If anyone says their intent was to help then I'll believe it and Im sorry for turning the flames up in the oven. Scca thank you for wanting to help. It was not my intent to turn the thread into a flame war.

             You gotta admit tho, "Baron Von Brownpants" was a good one wasnt it?:lol

No worries..  I too come across a little smart mouthed sometimes.  My offer for help is sincere.  

I have nothing against buff drivers. I play the whole game to benefit my squad and bomb when necessary.  Bombing to me is a snore, but I wouldn’t knock anyone for being exclusive at it.  I only wanted to look at your score to see what your averages were to help me understand what I could do to help, nothing more.

As was already mentioned, what you wish for, may be against others wishes, and by starting a thread, those comments will come out.  Even something that would be good for most of the players, may not be well received by some (arena scoring split for instance).  If HTC didn’t want to allow comments on a wishlist item, he would have made it a post only folder.

I will be looking for you at angels 30 :)
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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2007, 07:56:16 AM »
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Three years ago.

But the text in bombsight could have given you a hint ;)


Bah, I don't read that nonsense. Can you point me to instructions on how to calibrate with the new method. (By the way the method I'm using works just fine.)

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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2007, 08:06:38 AM »
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Bah, I don't read that nonsense. Can you point me to instructions on how to calibrate with the new method. (By the way the method I'm using works just fine.)

Trip


Hmmm... that nonsense there ARE the instructions...


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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2007, 08:07:35 AM »
Rich, I'm here if you need a little help. I love the B26 for sinking ships.:D
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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2007, 11:46:02 AM »
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Rich, I'm here if you need a little help. I love the B26 for sinking ships.:D


                       Thanks Egg. The B-26 is just a far more survivable bomber to fly. Yeah I like the big bombers but how often can you organize big formations with escorts and gunners?? And there are also times I dont feel like climbing for 45 mins too. And the Strats near where the rocket planes can be jumped into? The ones usually 5 k high to boot? Forget it! I dont even go into those anymore, or at least not often.

                   I mean why? You help your team more flying tactical missions or goons. I actually have some hair-raising flights in Goons.

                  And the best part of the B-26 against ships is you can get it up to 10,000' quickly and get there while the ship is still up. It seems to me everytime Im at 10,000', and start my drop 1 & 1/2 ship length ahead, I always hit.

                Anyway...what were we talking about? ...I forget...Oh yeah, the bombsight? Refresh my memory, why did Lusche want to change calibration times??
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