Natives are getting restless...

[VWE]

One of the two killed was an Army Capt. or an O-3, took a direct hit in their NTV or civilian pickup truck. Had they been in and Army humvee they'd be alive today... that's about all I see over here are the officers driving the civilian vehicles and the soldiers driving the hunvees. We got hit with an 8 rocket salvo... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071011/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_base_attack I got there less than 5 minutes after the attack...

[Meatwad]

Time to wipe out a certain town

[AquaShrimp]

Originally posted by Meatwad
Time to wipe out a certain town

Yeah, Washington D.C.

[ROC]

WW2 was fought on foot.  We won.  What we Need to do is shut the politicians and play nice hand wringers up and go win this thing.  Heck, it's Iraq for crying out loud, Nebraska could kick it's butt in a weekend if we just Let them.

[FrodeMk3]

Originally posted by VWE
One of the two killed was an Army Capt. or an O-3, took a direct hit in their NTV or civilian pickup truck. Had they been in and Army humvee they'd be alive today... that's about all I see over here are the officers driving the civilian vehicles and the soldiers driving the hunvees. We got hit with an 8 rocket salvo... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071011/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_base_attack I got there less than 5 minutes after the attack...

Don't forget to keep your own head and bellybutton down, VWE.

[Tiger]

One Captain is worth about what, 80 insurgents?  Time to break out the big guns.

Stuff like this is what happens when you try to fight a politically correct war!  

I've always said, go neighborhood by neighborhood.  Seal it off, announce you are going to blow it off the face of the earth, but you will allow everyone to leave, check them as they leave for weapons.  Anyone who stayed behind has something going on and deserves what they get.  Have a flight of B-52's fly over and level it.  Then we can rebuild that neighboorhood and let everyone move back in.  I figure we are rebuilding nearly everything anyway, this won't cost too much more, and will be more than worth it to save US lives.

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by Tiger
One Captain is worth about what, 80 insurgents?  Time to break out the big guns.

Stuff like this is what happens when you try to fight a politically correct war!  

I've always said, go neighborhood by neighborhood.  Seal it off, announce you are going to blow it off the face of the earth, but you will allow everyone to leave, check them as they leave for weapons.  Anyone who stayed behind has something going on and deserves what they get.  Have a flight of B-52's fly over and level it.  Then we can rebuild that neighboorhood and let everyone move back in.  I figure we are rebuilding nearly everything anyway, this won't cost too much more, and will be more than worth it to save US lives.

There hasn't been a single war in the history of the world that has been won without waging Total War.

[Swoop]

This is me playing devil's advocate.  This is not my opinion.


Tiger,

Imagine for a second that your country has been invaded by some other country due to George Bush being a dictator and having thousands of people murdered (and not really cos someone wanted cheap Texan oil) and a few hundred soldiers camped out at the end of your street saying get out within 2 days taking only what you can carry cos your home that you've lived in since childhood is gonna be demolished, that tree you had your first kiss under is gonna be blown to bits and you'll never be able to visit your childhood pets' grave again cos after the bomb hits you wont be able to find it anyway........and afterwards it'll take 3 years for us to get around to building you a cardboard pre-fab house and you'll be living in a tent until then.

How would you feel about it and would you seriously consider joining up with the insurgents?

[Tiger]

Originally posted by Swoop
This is me playing devil's advocate.  This is not my opinion.




How would you feel about it and would you seriously consider joining up with the insurgents?

I would have been an insurgent from the beginnning, no need to wait until something like that happens.


Take a peek at WW2, would we have beat Japan or Germany using these tactics?  NO.  We leveled virtualyl every square mile of every major city in Germany.   We torched most of Japan, as well as dumping a nuke on two of their cities.


Now on to your devil's advocate question, let me reply in the manner you are probably were not looking for...  If I were living under a dictator who ruthlessly murdered inncocent civilians and acted like a Jackoscar which got a bunch of UN sancations placed on the country which directly decreased my level of living, and some country finally got feed up with him and took over.  I would be rather happy.  Now when my nutjob neighbors decided to take this opportunity to wage a religious based civil war and target our lving liberators, I would be glad if they killed the insurgents, even if it meant levelling the crappy neighborhood I lived in, and offered to rebuild me a nice house with a nice infrastructure (electricity, runnign water, and sewage systems are good things) so that my level of living would increase.

[Shuffler]

Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Yeah, Washington D.C.

lol I thought shrimp was American... guess I was wrong.... some comunist country purhaps chinese or hmmm Syria...

[Swoop]

Originally posted by Tiger
I would have been an insurgent from the beginnning, no need to wait until something like that happens.

 Well since you mention it, so would I.

Originally posted by Tiger
If I were living under a dictator who ruthlessly murdered inncocent civilians and acted like a Jackoscar which got a bunch of UN sancations placed on the country which directly decreased my level of living, and some country finally got feed up with him and took over.  I would be rather happy.  

What if you were among the minority group that wasn't being targetted?

Actually, never mind.  The point I was toying around was that the tactics you mention could create even more Iraqi hatred for the US and her allies then already exists.

[storch]

swoop, I view the situation from a different point.  I believe since we are already globally reviled inspite of the overwhelming fact that we are easily the most benevolent and humanitarian society in the entire history of civilization we might as well just live up to our critic's expectations.

boom I say I suspect it is satire but it hits close to home.

[Swoop]

So....what you're saying is that because 'everyone' thinks you're complete and utter bastards you may as well not disappoint them?

Not that I disagree with you, you understand, being a complete and utter bastard myself......

[john9001]

swoop. what makes you think the Iraq people hate America?

[Tiger]

Originally posted by john9001
swoop. what makes you think the Iraq people hate America?

Cause that's the cool European thing to do, and you know how those European trends catch on like wildfire.