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Offline 1K3

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If Carlos Ghosn can save Nissan, can he save GM, Chrysler?
« on: October 11, 2007, 10:54:18 AM »
Before Ghosn entered Nissan:
- Nissan had a debt of more than $20 billion
- Only 3 out of 48 car models were generating a profit.
- Infiniti luxury lineup was pathetic

After he was elected as the CEO:
- He got Nissan out of debt
- He did away with inflexible Japanese-style management
- The Nissan Altima and its award-winning V6 engine saved Nissan USA
- Infiniti now directly competes with lexus, bmw, benz.  Their best model is the entry-level Infiniti G36/G37.

What a complete turnaround for Nissan.  If he gets hired by GM or Chrysler,  
can he save GM, Chrysler?

Offline Tiger

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If Carlos Ghosn can save Nissan, can he save GM, Chrysler?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 11:00:35 AM »
Not sure what can save US car manufacturers.

You take $28K, you can buy a low level US car, with poor reliability and high maintence costs and low fuel mileage

Or, you go get the high end Toyota, with low maintence caost, excellent reliability, and out standing fuel mileage,

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If Carlos Ghosn can save Nissan, can he save GM, Chrysler?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 11:15:30 AM »
No, because the fault lies with the UAW. The management at the U.S. auto makers is at least on par with Nissan and Toyota.

Carlos does not have to deal with the union and therefor can be successful in designing world class cars.

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If Carlos Ghosn can save Nissan, can he save GM, Chrysler?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 03:27:55 PM »
After owning a Toyota Avalon.. which I may say was the biggest POS I have ever had the pleasure of owning. I would never own one again!

I currently own two Mazda's(Made in Japan), and a US made car. My Cadillac CTS fit & finish its been light years better then my Avalon ever even thought about being.

GM is on the rebound, the products coming out of Cadillac look great and drive great! The new P/U's & SUV's I think have the best looking interiors to boot.

Everyone has the metality that US Automakers do not make good products. I bet 90% of them have never even owned one, so how would they know.

All you ever hear about is the bad..

Offline EagleDNY

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If Carlos Ghosn can save Nissan, can he save GM, Chrysler?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 04:07:41 PM »
Agree with ya here - my Saturn Vue cost $18K brand new and decked out in '06.  In the last 2 years I've put 50K on it, and it has been flawless.  All I've put in it is oil changes and an air filter so far, although I'm getting ready to need tires and probably a set of brake pads.  

She gets 27mpg hwy (OK - but its an SUV folks, and I haul a lot of junk around).  Nothing wrong with American cars these days folks.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 04:08:11 PM »
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Originally posted by Tiger
Not sure what can save US car manufacturers.

You take $28K, you can buy a low level US car, with poor reliability and high maintence costs and low fuel mileage

Or, you go get the high end Toyota, with low maintence caost, excellent reliability, and out standing fuel mileage,


This is not the 80s anymore, as bad as American car makers are, the cars themselves are not all that bad, just not very interesting.

After the experiences I have had with Toyotas I would never consider another one, and it was a 2000 camary and 99 Tacoma that were both total piles of garbage, hell the camary required 2000$ in repairs while UNDER warranty because toyota claimed the strut towers were a wear and tear part. Given the choice between the 96 olds acheva I had and that camery I would chose the olds, or walking.

The toyota had less then 15k on it at the time.

You want to talk about Toyota some more? Go to an FJ forum and read about how the inner fenders are ripping on them, and how many dealers are ****ing over the owners.  Nice design work there, and from what I read its NOT just modified ones, infact I saw a survey and the majority of rigs with the issue were dead stock.

My Jeep has been more reliable then either toyota and my Bro in laws Xterra. (that he traded in on a jeep after a tech told him the suspension was messed up and they couldn’t figure out why it was drinking 4 qaurts of oil in under 1k miles. Even AFTER a short block swap.)

 
My 2002 Chevy truck has NEVER had a single problem.

I am not saying American cars are better, just that you can get a ****ty lemon from them all, and they are ALLOT closer in quality then people give them credit for.  

Most people I know who bag on American cars only have not owned one in years.


As for if this guy could save GM or Ford? Maybe, but he would have to fire allot of management and do something about the unions and legacy labor costs.

Can you still up and fire all your people and hire them back non union?

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2007, 06:38:57 PM »
Hmmm ^

My wife and i owned 4 toyotas (2 each) for a total of 10 years and never had a problem with any of them.

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 07:16:16 PM »
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Originally posted by Tiger
Not sure what can save US car manufacturers.

You take $28K, you can buy a low level US car, with poor reliability and high maintence costs and low fuel mileage

Or, you go get the high end Toyota, with low maintence caost, excellent reliability, and out standing fuel mileage,


I disagree with you sir.

I spent much less than that for a upper mid level US made car with good reliability, low maintainance cost and good fuel economy.

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BMW or Infiniti
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2007, 07:25:05 PM »
I have one of each.  The Infiniti is a piece of crap in comparison to the BMW.

That said, maybe the Navigator or Escalade could compete with the Infiniti, but not with a BMW.   Of course, the BMW costs a good bit more.

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