Congress, Turkey and Genocide

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by john9001
Turkey was never a friend of the USA, they only pretended to be because they were afraid of the USSR.
Remember Turkey did not let US troops cross turkey in get into northern Iraq.

Damn those pesky Turks for not jumping through hoops when we tell them!


ack-ack

[Sixpence]

Well then, you should have no problem with the pres of Iran denying what happened to the jews during ww2

[Trell]

But but but.  Bush tells us that iran is bad and turkey is good    right?

[crockett]

Originally posted by Yeager

A lighter shade of grey perhaps, depending on who you talk to.  Point is, city killing is a abhorrent form of genocide, whether you want it to be or not.

 

Maybe so, but that's how war was fought in WW2. Was the bombings of London genocide? Or our carpet bombing of Germany? we also firebombed much of Japan and did quite a bit of damage. Hell the Germans were the first to do that too over London.

In fact I think Firebombing did as much damage in Japan as the Nukes did. So city destroying was common practice during WW2.

[Yeager]

One could accurately say that total war, bewteen cultures, is genocide.

[FrodeMk3]

This one's probably gonna get it's own thread started sooner or later, but we're already here, so:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071012/wl_nm/turkey_iraq_dc_25

If the Turks' carry through with this, does anyone want to try to predict our response? Will we just stand aside and let them, help them maybe? Will we frown and be dissapproving, but still allow them due to logistics' support reasons, such as stated in the article? Will we have Apache's up there picking off M-60's? Place yer bets!!!

[Yeager]

The situation in Iraq is improving.  The pelosi liberals are in desperate need of reversing the emerging surge success trend and feel that this resolution condemning the century old Turkish armenian genocide has a great chance of alienating Turkey.   This insulting house resolution will motivate the Turks to invade northern Iraq and thus severely reverse the positive gains the US military has made since summer.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/12/genocide.resolution/index.html

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Im starting to get energized here .......Im sensing the conservative majority is finally getting their groove ready for electoral action......keep going pelosi, keep going

[rpm]

Pelosi wants to block access to Iraq thru Turkey. That's the only reason I can see for raising the subject of WW1.

[FrodeMk3]

Originally posted by Yeager
The situation in Iraq is improving.  The pelosi liberals are in desperate need of reversing the emerging surge success trend and feel that this resolution condemning the century old Turkish armenian genocide has a great chance of alienating Turkey.   This insulting house resolution will motivate the Turks to invade northern Iraq and thus severely reverse the positive gains the US military has made since summer.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/12/genocide.resolution/index.html

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Im starting to get energized here .......Im sensing the conservative majority is finally getting their groove ready for electoral action......keep going pelosi, keep going

Yeah, but it really depends on the next moves they make, doesn't it Yeager? I mean, whether or not the Turk's actually invade, or just do a lot of posturing, and then back-off? I guess it remains to be seen.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by Yeager
Apparently our Pelosi controlled congress thinks it can further undermine this nation by insulting a friendly muslim nation that is a leading secular democracy and example for all those backward muslim nations to strive for.

If we are going to pin the term genocide on the Turks we might as well pin it on ourselves.....remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/11/us.turkey.armenians/index.html

hypocracy in action

Actually you should.  The have done it repeatedly through their history and so have we.  Not because of the bomb though.  Member the Indians?

[Boroda]

I see some interesting logics here. Serbs killing 8,000 Bosniaques = genocide. Turks killing 1,500,000 Armenians = not genocide.

When Orthodox kill Muslims - it's a genocide and can't be tolerated, if Muslims kill Orthodox - it's OK and no one cares.

[Ack-Ack]

Serbs massacred more Bosniaks than that.  Srebrenica alone accounted for close to 8,000 Bosniak civilians.


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[bj229r]

Originally posted by rpm
Pelosi wants to block access to Iraq thru Turkey. That's the only reason I can see for raising the subject of WW1.

The ONE weapon that Pelosi has to 'end the war'--is to deny funding. Congress could do that tomorrow, but hasn't the cajones---instead, they try all these peripheral tricks, like trying to mandate impossible readiness standards, standards for troop leave time, etc. NOW they are trying to insult an important US ally into not working with us anymore over something that happened in 1915---this passes pathetic

[leitwolf]

Originally posted by Boroda
I see some interesting logics here. Serbs killing 8,000 Bosniaques = genocide. Turks killing 1,500,000 Armenians = not genocide.[..]

Nobody said it wasn't genocide. On the contrary.

[Holden McGroin]

The present Republic of Turkey started in 1922.

The Armenian Genocide occurred from 1915 to 1917.

Anybody of responsible age (say 16) would be 107 years old now.

The genocide was perpetrated by a dead state (the Ottoman Empire) by individuals who are long dead.