Missions would you participate more if:

[croduh]

Widwing hit the nail on that method.
Tried it myself couple of times, if you can find a bomber pilot who is willing to go so slow for c47.
Works out great if you have some fighters above too.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
Widewing, we all were new at this game once.    

I never felt singled out.   I just don't understand why the "veterans of AH" choose to place themselves "above anyone else".    This Community has shredded itself over the last 5.5 years.

I give as much to this community as anyone else, and 95% of the population gives nothing at all. I spend much of my time teaching players what they need to know to graduate from noobs to viable pilots.

I'm not going to join FUBAR missions, period.

I'm not going to fly with a horde of guys on a useless, badly planned mission just to make the mission planner feel good.

I'd rather be that guy who tears these missions to shreds... That's more fun.

My regards,

Widewing

[Snubby]

maybe i should clarify what i was talking about..

im not talking about making a mission work that  i make myself...

but WHY people almost never join missions in the first place..

I understand now that this place is fully infested with sack riders, more so than any game ive ever seen I think.  

which basically means it takes someone "popular" to post a mission for people to join it in the game, all other aspects are moot (more or less), same kinda situation here (forum) if someone posts something interesting.. and they are a nobody, then thats about the end of it.. but if one of the popular kids says the same thing.. the whole forum will swing from their nutts for 10 pages...

Aces High... School

[FTDEEP]

i like goin on missions..only been on a few. thing i would like to see is.if you join a mssion...it automatically puts you on runway with misssion no matter what your doin. miss a lot of missions not getting back in time or losing track of time.

[AWwrgwy]

#3 is the main reason I don't join missions.  
If it's well planned out, then the choice of planes is the choice of planes.  
If your plane's not on the list, try something different for once.  It's an offshoot of the ENY argument.  Can't fly what I like, so I'm not flying at all.

Ghi, Kazza, Thundregg and the 31st always put on good Bish missions.

I'll join single plane missions or missions that seem to have a purpose.  If you're going to add every plane, then what's the point?  Only to get numbers with no purpose?

It's not so much "popularity" that the mission planners name attracts as it is a good track record in planning fun, successful (sometimes) missions.


wrngway

[Gianlupo]

Originally posted by Snubby
maybe i should clarify what i was talking about..

im not talking about making a mission work that  i make myself...

but WHY people almost never join missions in the first place..

I understand now that this place is fully infested with sack riders, more so than any game ive ever seen I think.  

which basically means it takes someone "popular" to post a mission for people to join it in the game, all other aspects are moot (more or less), same kinda situation here (forum) if someone posts something interesting.. and they are a nobody, then thats about the end of it.. but if one of the popular kids says the same thing.. the whole forum will swing from their nutts for 10 pages...

Aces High... School

If that's what you think, I'd say you badly need learning to read and then read again the whole thread.

[Snubby]

Originally posted by Gianlupo
If that's what you think, I'd say you badly need learning to read and then read again the whole thread.

you need learning to write?

[Gianlupo]

Well, at least, I'm a foreigner and I'm typing in a language that's not mine. And I'd say I do it pretty well, even better than some of you mother tongue guys. My syntax may be weird, sometimes, my ideas, I think, are always pretty clearly stated.

Btw, what's wrong in the above statement?

[E25280]

Originally posted by Gianlupo
If that's what you think, I'd say you badly need to learn to read and then re-read the whole thread.

One possibility of many.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Gianlupo
Well, at least, I'm a foreigner and I'm typing in a language that's not mine. And I'd say I do it pretty well, even better than some of you mother tongue guys. My syntax may be weird, sometimes, my ideas, I think, are always pretty clearly stated.

Btw, what's wrong in the above statement?

Don't sweat it, your statements are true.   Many cannot handle it Lupo.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by GunnerCAF
If you want to lead people, you need power or respect.  If you can learn how to lead out of respect, this game can teach you a useful real life lesson.

If your having problems getting people to join your mission, please see the statement above.

Gunner

Problem is you have folks that "expect the respect" and those "who earn respect".    Two different groups and the first group is usually shouting the most.

[GunnerCAF]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
Problem is you have folks that "expect the respect" and those "who earn respect".    Two different groups and the first group is usually shouting the most.

You got that right

Gunner

[ColKLink]

I'm quite sure missions are against all ethics of the rooks code of conduct. But a good steamroll is fun once in a while.

[Gianlupo]

Target, thanks for correction. I checked my grammar, I vaguely recalled, when I wrote that post, that to need has a particular syntax, so I thought it needed () the -ing after it, while it just wants an infinite, without to. So, you need learn is what I wanted to write, it should be correct English.
[EDIT: I'm not sure if this construction applies to to need + any other verb, or just to to need + certain verbs... any suggestion?]

Karaya, thanks for your words. May I run for the 2008 campaign as your vice-president?

[dedalos]

Originally posted by Snubby
do you think more people would participate in missions if:

A: planes part of the mission received an extra (small) perk/points % boost.

like say if you shot down a N1k in your yak,, you get 2 points, but if you had been part of an organized mission and did so.. you would get 2.5

B: Missions notifications were listed in the Text buffer.. such as the mission and time till take off updated ever few min till it launches..  this would be squelchable of course.


C: you could send a direct request via the mission screen to add/change aircraft, the planner only having to click an allow/deny button.

reasons:

for suggestion A it seems many people shy away from missions because, compared to furballing or just doing your own thing, you take longer to get into contact..  so perhaps a little reward for being a team player would motivate folks to join, and offset the discrepancy in points for the scorepotatos.


for suggestion B so many times ive seen people actually join, but because the way the game is.. if they are flying/driving/whatever the start of the mission can lapse without them knowing it. and they miss out..  the alternative to this of course  is someone yelling ~~~MISSION STARTS IN 2 MIN!!!!~~~ and such over and over again on the country channel.. which is tedious and .. annoying..  would be better if people who signed up would get an AUTOMATED reminder ever min till about 1 min before and then every 15 sec or so..  so the planner doesent have to bellow on the green and look foolish, and waste his/her time.


for suggestion C  I know lots of people don't join because their ride(s) aren't listed,   this would make it a little easier and compliant..
 wanna join the mission but no P47s are listed.. at it yourself, set the load out etc etc.. and hit submit..  the planner gets a little popup or message, all he has to do is take a quick glance, and hit "allow" and your set..  or if you submit something inane or uncalled for.. "deny" and you cant submit another change for XX minutes.. or  such.


Im only bringing this up because since i started playing i.. for the reasons above have not participated in but 1 or 2 missions..  until today i FORCED myself to do so, and it was some of the most fun ive had playing the game..  now i just wish more people would post them..

and not all of them are base caps.. I know how many people blow the "the purpose of the game isnt to take bases, thats not how I spend my $15.. etc etc bla bla bla"  I had some real fun on some missions that was just 5 people upping from a base and trolling the front lines looking for targets, or just forming a group and heading to a "hot spot"..

I just fail to understand why more people dont play cooperatively than do.  It really adds a new level of immersion and FUN to the game..

Well, I'd go with B but more importantly, I might join if the missions were actually well designed and by someone I know has been around for a while.

No flying for 15 minutes to go auger on the radar so they cant see you coming.  Guess what, that action alone just told them you were coming