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Offline Trip01

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« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2007, 10:21:14 AM »
I think the idea of an automatic countdown on country channel is a good idea. I like flying in missions and will usually at least have a look if one is mentioned and I'm on the ground between the mission being announced and taking off.

Missions need to be posted about 20 minutes in advance of take off to make sure that anyone who wants to join can finish what they are doing and get down. The mission also needs to make it clear in the name what the mission will be doing.

A recent mission I joined run by talon was a blast.

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« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2007, 10:26:02 AM »
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yeah name recognition is key. GHI makes a mission and usually it fills. Joedog31 used to get 30 people to up typhoons or f6f's when he would post missions(he even got people to up a bunch of SBD's) I've been on both sides of oScreaming Devilso Lanc missions. I've also enjoyed some Thunderegg bomber missions. I join missions because it's fun, but I usually join when I recognize who posted it. I am a lemming......and that's OK

On the Bish side Falcon23, ghi and Thundregg all post great missions that are usually successful... and more importantly fun! I joined a mission that was planned by (of all squeakers) Cmustard... What a disaster. Mission vox was all "HEEEEELLLPPPP I HAVE AN EEEENNNNEEEEMMMMYYYY behind me, and  variations of the same.
Good topic! It is true for me that most missions posted by guys I don't know won't get a second look from me. The same goes for missions that have poor aircraft and/or ord load outs. I will try a new guy if the mission looks well planned, so it stands to reason that if you are a novice mission planner, plan a good mission if you want to get participation. Look at how the successful missions are set up, and listen to how good mission leaders lead their missions. Common sense really!
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« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2007, 12:47:25 PM »
As 4 tour new pilot, most of the missions include planes that I have no familiarity with.  As my experience with different planes grows, I will most certainly take part in missions!  As far as the trust & know thing, there is some truth to more experienced pilots pulling together well built missions.  It only make sense.
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« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2007, 01:43:57 PM »
One thing I make sure and try to do: I post missions sometimes with planes I suck at because there are those that really enjoy them. That's another way I like to see people have fun. A couple examples would be the P51's and the Mossies. I've posted missions with those, but I always ask for an expert opinion as to the loadout, fuel, and flight tactics, because I'm just terrible with them.

It's okay to be ignorant about certain aspects of the game, but it's how you handle it and get better that counts.
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« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2007, 06:29:38 PM »
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Originally posted by Gianlupo
Well, at least, I'm a foreigner and I'm typing in a language that's not mine. And I'd say I do it pretty well, even better than some of you mother tongue guys. My syntax may be weird, sometimes, my ideas, I think, are always pretty clearly stated.

Btw, what's wrong in the above statement?


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« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2007, 06:39:56 PM »
very interesting ideas snubby,and I know what it was like when I first started trying to run missions as the "NEW GUY",I just could not get people to join except my squadmates.And you want frustration...Try making a mission against GHI,even now,and response will usually be low numbers.. GHI..

 I agree that getting people to join missions can be tough at times,I have more than once deleted a mission,as I am sure every mission planner has,because of low turnout,but it may just be that everyone is working on something else,and yet,one can put up the SAME mission 5 minutes later,and get all kinds of people in the mission..

 Snubby,as far as some of your ideas.
 A..sounds like a great idea,and I am suprised that it does not work that way currently.

 B..A bit tougher to deal with,as I am one of those who does a last 5 minute countdown on the minute,in caps,by saying 5 MIN WARNING,and every minute therafter until mission starts.I would not want an auto text buffer message,as I can just imagine 2-3 missions being up,and texts coming up..sounds like a bit of confusion..I am not only speaking to people who have joined the mission,but speaking to those who may of been so busy fighting that they missed it.I know,as I have been doing something in game,only to see at the last minute someone on the text buffer say,2 minutes left for mission.

C.. Sounds good,but honestly,I enjoy,as thundregg does,I imagine,when someone wants a different plane than what is in the plane set,finding it myself,and by doing so in the missions planner,seeing its full capabilitys,and making a mental note of that plane,and load-out,and fuel requirements.
  And many times,someone will ask for a particular plane,and I will try and put that plane in,sometimes only 2 of them,as I want most people in the rides I have listed.
And as thundregg said,I like it when someone who knows a plane I may have in mission,is giving me CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM as to what fuel should be,etc..etc..It is what finally got me to edit out P-51's on NOE missions:rofl

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« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2007, 06:47:59 PM »
Falcon23, GHI, ThundrEgg, oTRALFZo...put together really fun missions. These guys have all earned the reputation of getting the job done for Bish.

GHI's missions can take any shape or form. They usually are the most popular. Ghi's nukem missions are massive. Usually 100+ b26's flyin a short distance to flatten an enemy base.

Falcon's missions are really creative and employ almost every airplane. He usually includes a wide variety of mission planes that attract people to join.  

Thundreggs missions, that I've been a part of, usually include heavy E fighters such as a p47. I dont get to fly the p47 as much as I'd like, but I always get an opportunity to do so in a thundregg mission. His missions seem to work the quickest, as far as the demolition of town, base, and deacking.

Tralfz missions are fun because they usually include bombers and escort planes. Tralfz missions incorporate more realism with the fighter escorts. We usually bomb at pretty high altitudes ensuring fewer enemies.
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« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2007, 08:20:19 PM »
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Target, thanks for correction. I checked my grammar, I vaguely recalled, when I wrote that post, that to need has a particular syntax, so I thought it needed (:D) the -ing after it, while it just wants an infinite, without to. So, you need learn is what I wanted to write, it should be correct English. :)
[EDIT: I'm not sure if this construction applies to to need + any other verb, or just to to need + certain verbs... any suggestion?]
 
If I understand you correctly, you are trying to attach the word "to" with the wrong verb.  In your sentence, "need" is already conjugated correctly.  Let's see if this helps:

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Originally posted by Gianlupo
If that's what you think, I'd say you badly need to learn to read and then re-read the whole thread.
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The root subject / verb sentence is "You need."
You need what?
"You need to learn."
You need to learn what?
"You need to learn to read."

It has been a long time since I have had to structure sentences like this, so I hope I have it right.  :o
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« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2007, 10:02:40 PM »
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Originally posted by falcon23
very interesting ideas snubby,and I know what it was like when I first started trying to run missions as the "NEW GUY",I just could not get people to join except my squadmates.And you want frustration...Try making a mission against GHI,even now,and response will usually be low numbers.. GHI..



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 Sorry Falcon, but i'm trying not to post missions if someone else already has one posted , unless some bases need quick help,
My favoritte fun missions is GVs panzer Blitzkrieg, park 20-30 tanks on a bussy enemy base, like a bunch of dirty bikers,voolch them in cockpit with main cannon,drink beer and urinate like dogs on the trees on their tower, as they are watching helpless from tower,: if is a knight base  i call Pacerr on .200 to wash my panzer
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« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2007, 11:23:58 PM »
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Originally posted by ghi
My favoritte fun missions is GVs panzer Blitzkrieg, park 20-30 tanks on a bussy enemy base, like a bunch of dirty bikers,voolch them in cockpit with main cannon,drink beer and urinate like dogs on the trees on their tower, as they are watching helpless from tower,: if is a knight base  i call Pacerr on .200 to wash my panzer
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« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2007, 11:33:43 PM »
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« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2007, 12:00:19 AM »
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Thundreggs missions, that I've been a part of, usually include heavy E fighters such as a p47. I dont get to fly the p47 as much as I'd like, but I always get an opportunity to do so in a thundregg mission. His missions seem to work the quickest, as far as the demolition of town, base, and deacking.



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« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2007, 03:28:38 AM »
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It has been a long time since I have had to structure sentences like this, so I hope I have it right.  :o


Don't worry, I'm not a professor and I'm very grateful for your help; I'm just trying to get the things right! And I had to check the grammar book! ;)

The matter is that the book says that to need doesn't... need (!) the to after, like in sentences as:

you need go there and talk to him;
you need take that money and run away.

Basically, in sentences where to need has a meaning similar to to must, you make the sentence in this form: subject + need + verb in infinite form without to.

Now, I'm not sure if this construction of the sentence applies to every instance in which to need is used with the aforementioned meaning, but it is correct english (maybe British english only? That's what we studied at school!)...
Another thing, the book is pretty old (20 years, now!), so, being english a so quickly changing language, this rule could have fell into disuse, by now.
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« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2007, 05:44:38 AM »
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Don't worry, I'm not a professor and I'm very grateful for your help; I'm just trying to get the things right! And I had to check the grammar book! ;)

The matter is that the book says that to need doesn't... need (!) the to after, like in sentences as:

you need go there and talk to him;
you need take that money and run away.

Basically, in sentences where to need has a meaning similar to to must, you make the sentence in this form: subject + need + verb in infinite form without to.

Now, I'm not sure if this construction of the sentence applies to every instance in which to need is used with the aforementioned meaning, but it is correct english (maybe British english only? That's what we studied at school!)...
Another thing, the book is pretty old (20 years, now!), so, being english a so quickly changing language, this rule could have fell into disuse, by now.
I see your book's point.  Let's just say that, although it may be "grammatically correct", it "sounds" clumsy to me without the "to" between need and the next verb.

You must go there and talk to him. -- "Sounds" fine.
You need to go there and talk to him. -- "Sounds" fine.
You need go there and talk to him. -- This is not something I would hear anyone say.
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« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2007, 06:02:12 AM »
Yep, I see. I'll add the to. After all, less exceptions make the language easier for me! ;)
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