GVing and Graphics

[swoop777]

I dont know where this will get me,  but it seems to me that turning the graphics down when in GVs to better your advantage sort of takes away the point of coverage, hiding, or camoflague.  I found out about it last month as I was having a pretty hard time understanding how I was gettin hit behind a hill. Someone let me in on the secret and I was like, WOW now I get it, and although I use it now I wish there were some way to make that not an option in GVs s, as to make it more fair to all.
Lemme know what ya think I am lookin for opinions here that is all. I am in no way cryin about it, as it dosent affect me much now, but for realism sake I just think it would be better the correct way.

[AAolds]

I agree with ya, that people turning their graphics down to see thru trees n such is lame at best.  I dont know how this matter will or if it can be solved.

[waystin2]

If this does occur, it is a horribly lame thing to do.

[Urchin]

Oh, it occurs, trust me.

[Max]

Originally posted by AAolds
I agree with ya, that people turning their graphics down to see thru trees n such is lame at best.  I dont know how this matter will or if it can be solved.

While I don't have the best memory in the world, I seem to recall you sitting inside a hill, in a panzer, a few weeks ago...Uterus map it was.  Have you repented your evil ways?

[NHawk]

Turning down the graphics does not allow people to hit you behind hills or trees. It just lets them see you.

If they shoot at you they will still hit whatever is no longer visible.

Remember... just because you don't have a shot at them, that doesn't mean they don't have a shot at you.

My personal favorite is people that hide behind windmills. I have a clear shot at their front or back end and they never see me.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by NHawk
Turning down the graphics does not allow people to hit you behind hills or trees. It just lets them see you.

If they shoot at you they will still hit whatever is no longer visible.

Remember... just because you don't have a shot at them, that doesn't mean they don't have a shot at you.

And that is why detail needs to be tied to vis range in a gv.

Bronk

[NHawk]

Originally posted by Bronk
And that is why detail needs to be tied to vis range in a gv.

Oh, I agree that the visual aspect needs to be corrected. It's just people that think it allows them to be hit that I so strongly disagree with.

People need to realize that because they can't aquire a shot, it doesn't mean they can't be shot at.

And my personal word of advice....If you're going to GV at the very least be sure you have a 4 speaker system so you can tell what direction the shots are coming from. I can always tell who doesn't have 4 speakers, they hear me coming but their turret is only checking their front 1/3 when I am coming from behind them.

[Masherbrum]

I guess someone had to nibble on BluTigr's whines over the last two weeks.   LOL, It's amazing when others have to blame their shortcomings on "something else".

[rednex21]

as NHawk said earlier...turning your graphics down does not give you magic shells that can go through trees, hills, etc...  It just makes it where you can see these objects at long distances...when you are up close...you can't see them any more.  So...if you want to be a good gv'er...i would stick to up close hit and run tactics (especially in TT...you don't want to "over use" a place).  Otherwise, I would get in a good fortified area behind trees AND hills.

Another thing that I would like to add....to lessen your chances of being sin from a long way out...use darker tanks and only shoot targets that are no further than around 1.2k.  Doing this....its hard to see darks tanks in dark areas(trees....duh) and tanks cannot see you shells to pinpoint your location.





Banshee7

[rednex21]

and shouldn't this be in "Aircafts and Vehicles" forum?....just asking

[AAolds]

Originally posted by Max
While I don't have the best memory in the world, I seem to recall you sitting inside a hill, in a panzer, a few weeks ago...Uterus map it was.  Have you repented your evil ways?

If i was in a hill, it was certainly not on purpose, more like I was tracked and at a crappy angle.  I dont know how to pull off any of those "tricks".  As for repenting, my hands are clean, how bout yours?

[E25280]

Originally posted by NHawk
Oh, I agree that the visual aspect needs to be corrected. It's just people that think it allows them to be hit that I so strongly disagree with.

Consider this.  I am on level terrain.  I have my graphics turned to where they should be.  I see nothing but hedgerows and the occasional tree top all around me.

Dweebygamer1 is sitting 1.0K away, and has his graphics turned down.  Because of this, he clearly sees me as I am trying to figure out which direction to go to get out of my maze of hedges and trees.

He fires.  Because of the arc in his shell's trajectory, it goes over all those hedges that are between me and him.  It hits near me.

I am confused and looking around, trying to see the guy who is shooting at me.  But I can't, because he is behind all the terrain.  In not too long a time, this shot comes from "nowhere" and kills me.

It sure appears he is firing through inpenetrable terrain to me.  To your point, his shell is not actually going through the terrain, but he most certainly is targeting me through it.  

So, yes, it indeed DOES allow me to be hit when I should not be.  I can't see him, and he shouldn't be able to see me, but he does.

This is IMO the most absolutely frustrating aspect of GVing, even well above the concrete sheep.

[Bruv119]

^  he is right.

I only turn my down if theres a camper i cant see.  

It does make the gv action a little gamey.  shouldnt be too hard to fix???

[NHawk]

Originally posted by E25280
So, yes, it indeed DOES allow me to be hit when I should not be.  I can't see him, and he shouldn't be able to see me, but he does.

This is IMO the most absolutely frustrating aspect of GVing, even well above the concrete sheep.

What I quoted is the most ridiculous thing I see people post. It's kind of like covering your eyes and saying you can't see me so I can't see you.

I DO agree that the graphics shouldn't be able to be turned down to see GVs and I posted it in the Wishlist forum, but again...if you truely have a tree or hill blocking another players shot it will block it.

I don't play the turn down graphics game, but I have been accused of it. You'd be surprised what just a slightly different angle does when it comes to a hit or no hit. Again, WITHOUT the graphics turned down you may not be able to see them or get a shot on them, but they can see you WITHOUT the graphics turned down and have the shot just because of a slightly different angle.

And if I see you roll to the hedges and I know where you are I can hit you by trajectory without the graphics turned down. It may take me a few shots, but I will get you.

I'd seriously suggest filming some GV action and when you get hit like that, look at the film from the gun of the person that killed you. And I mean look at it from the beginning because he may have been watching you the whole time. You might be surprised to see what they can see.