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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2007, 04:07:17 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2007, 05:39:25 AM »
No need to log on, its not an accident, its a stunt from a movie involving logs, trucks, cars, motorcycles, blood and the occasionial explosion.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2007, 06:54:21 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2007, 09:50:12 AM »
I got the same thing you did MrRipley but I think Coshy was telling you not to bother with it rather than it wasn't necessary.

Why to they call crashes caused by someone's mistake accidents? Accidents don't happen, someone screws up somewhere down the line every time.

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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2007, 10:34:58 AM »
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Why to they call crashes caused by someone's mistake accidents? Accidents don't happen, someone screws up somewhere down the line every time.


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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2007, 10:52:50 AM »
what exactly is the point of that film? why would someone make a film like that? the CGI effects we really well done, so I imagine there was a good deal of money spent on it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2007, 12:03:00 PM »
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I got the same thing you did MrRipley but I think Coshy was telling you not to bother with it rather than it wasn't necessary.

Why to they call crashes caused by someone's mistake accidents? Accidents don't happen, someone screws up somewhere down the line every time.

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After going to thousands of collisions I've come to the conclusion that there are almost no real "accidents". The collisions are the result of inattention, excessive speed, failure to control speed, failure to yield, failure to stop and other demonstrations of negligence in the operation of a deadly weapon in public or around them such as in the case of a pedestrian wandering into traffic.

Other than an unforeseen mechanical breakdown or even an unfortunate blow out at a bad time, there is going to be a point where the human in charge of the vehicle did not operate it properly or did not take due care to avoid going into the vicinity of the vehicle when a collision happens.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2007, 12:11:57 PM »
I think what Mark may have meant, correct me if I'm wrong, is that there are no unpreventable accidents. Cause and effect, undeniable.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2007, 12:25:58 PM »
Whether it is an accident or not is not determined by the fact that someone is responsible, but by intent. If it wasn't intentional it's an accident.



ac·ci·dent (ăk'sĭ-dənt, -dĕnt') pronunciation
n.

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         1. An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm: car accidents on icy roads.
         2. An unforeseen incident: A series of happy accidents led to his promotion.
         3. An instance of involuntary urination or defecation in one's clothing.
   2. Lack of intention; chance: ran into an old friend by accident.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2007, 12:29:07 PM »
yep... you can pay attention and learn how to drive and thereby avoid 99% of the "accidents" or...  you can just buckle up and hope for the best.

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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2007, 12:31:20 PM »
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yep... you can pay attention and learn how to drive and thereby avoid 99% of the "accidents" or...  you can just buckle up and hope for the best.

lazs


When I buckle up it's to protect against those who aren't paying attention. That and the "man" who spends his day looking at my left shoulder for a belt.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2007, 12:43:29 PM »
gshultz,

These are a more appropriate definition of the circumstances related to traffic collisions.

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neg·li·gence      /ˈnɛglɪdʒəns/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[neg-li-juhns] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the quality, fact, or result of being negligent; neglect: negligence in discharging one's responsibilities.  
2. an instance of being negligent: a downfall brought about by many negligences.  
3. Law. the failure to exercise that degree of care that, in the circumstances, the law requires for the protection of other persons or those interests of other persons that may be injuriously affected by the want of such care.  
–adjective 4. Law. pertaining to or involving a civil action for compensation for damages filed by a person who claims to have suffered an injury or loss in an accident caused by another's negligence: a negligence suit; a large negligence award.  


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The state or quality of being negligent.
A negligent act or a failure to act.
Law Failure to exercise the degree of care considered reasonable under the circumstances, resulting in an unintended injury to another party.

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negligence [ˈneglidʒəns] noun

carelessness
Example: The accident was caused by the driver's negligence.

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Main Entry: neg·li·gence
Pronunciation: 'ne-gli-j&ns
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: failure to exercise the degree of care expected of a person of ordinary prudence in like circumstances in protecting others from a foreseeable and unreasonable risk of harm in a particular situation; also : conduct that reflects this failure called also ordinary negligence simple negligence —compare ABUSE 2, DUE CARE, INTENT
NOTE: Negligence may render one civilly and sometimes criminally liable for resulting injuries.

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Main Entry: neg·li·gence
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: failure to exercise the degree of care expected of a person of ordinary prudence in like circumstances in protecting others from a foreseeable and unreasonable risk of harm in a particular situation; also : conduct that reflects this failure called also ordinary negligence simple negligence —compare ABUSE 2, DUE CARE, INTENT
NOTE: Negligence may render one civilly and sometimes criminally liable for resulting injuries.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2007, 01:11:36 PM »
Maverick, had Mr. Luper used the word "negligent" I might have agreed with him. He didn't. In either case there are accidents that are not the result of someone's negligence. They may be few and far between, but they happen. So Mr. Luper's statement that "accidents don't happen, someone screws up somewhere down the line every time" is wrong in every sense.

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2007, 01:16:26 PM »
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what exactly is the point of that film? why would someone make a film like that? the CGI effects we really well done, so I imagine there was a good deal of money spent on it.


It's from Final Destination 2.  Basically a movie about some teenagers / 20 y.o.s evading death / trying not to die when it is their destiny.
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