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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2007, 07:52:01 PM »
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This thread is named "best e fighter?". To even mention the A-20 in this context borders on the absurd.


As usual your wrong. The A-20 is as close to a pure E fighter as you can get. Now I didnt make it #1 and its horribly limited in alot of ways but it has a tremendous E fighting capability and is very capable of giving any of the planes mentioned here a good fight.

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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2007, 07:56:36 PM »
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The A-20 is as close to a pure E fighter as you can get.


The mind boggles. You've outdone yourself this time Humble; that's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard. :huh

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« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2007, 09:20:35 PM »
According to WW's definition its not really.

The A-20 needs to be flown with altitude and/or speed all the time. It zooms maniacally well for some reason and it turns well for a bomber. And if it can't BnZ and can't TnB but zooms well and dives well (which  it does) while still being able to turn adequately then it can be considered an E-fighter.
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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2007, 09:28:44 PM »
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Geez Wadke...

He didn't ask what was the best BLUE[/u] plane!!! :D
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« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2007, 09:34:39 PM »
I'm not sure if you are misinterpreting my comment or are unaware of the A-20's capabilities as a "fighter".

Overall the A-20 is significantly hampered as a  fighter, however if you run into one that is well handled its obvious that its a dangerous adversary and needs to be handled with some care. In fact the more "late war" the plane the tougher the A-20 is to deal with.

Now once we accept the fact that the A-20 is "dogfight" capable we need to look further at how it accomplishes that goal. The A-20 cant sustain any high G manuevering at speeds over about 405 and even low level control input can pop control surfaces at 410-415 if trim is off. So the A-20 cant B&Z. The A-20 cant really angles fight with any success either so its not one of those. So how does it fight....between 225 & 375 in the semi verticals. It is in fact purely an E fighter. No plane in the game can transition from + to - E and back as smoothly as an A-20. I dont think there is any plane more stable in unusual attitude manuevering at widely varying speeds either. Nothing in the game can slow down, reload and zoom with the A-20 in that "E fighting" speed zone IMO.

The A-20 matches up suprisingly well with the p-51, p-47, p-38, la-7/5 Yak & 190. It can fight well vs the F6F, F4U and all 109's but relative pilot skill is more of a factor. It has a tougher time with spitties since both a good spit driver and often a bad one can force a fight unsuitable to the A-20. Ki's and nikkis are tough as well....

I said the A-20 is a "pure" E fighter...not the best E fighter. But as others have mentioned E fighting is more about the pilot then about the plane.

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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2007, 10:13:28 AM »
I put this up elsewhere for a different reason but I'll post it here...

This looks like an "E fighter" to me....

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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2007, 11:20:08 AM »
mm... the 262?


I mean.. that thing at 600mph ... nothing escapes it, nothing catches it... monstrous zoom climbs and insane diving speeds (when dives start over 200mph that is).