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Offline Airscrew

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #990 on: December 23, 2007, 11:01:37 AM »
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #991 on: December 23, 2007, 11:04:03 AM »
I think Lazs is aware of your points Chairboy, I could be wrong. Arguing with the more hardcore Alarmists is futile so it may be that Lazs is just having a little fun with them?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #992 on: December 23, 2007, 11:29:50 AM »
yes chair.. I am aware of it.   they are saying that any extreme weather no matter what is mans fault... like there never was extreme weather before.   I also don't think that it will be anything special this winter.    

When it was mild this fall.. it was global warming.. if there is an ice storm it is global climate change... global cooling.. if it suddenly gets a degree or two warmer this winter than last... who's fault will that be?

stronger hurricanes than some made up average that means nothing?   our fault..  less hurricanes... our fault...  

Would seem to me that if we had colder winters and warmer summers tho.. that the "average" would work out... yet.. they are saying we are warming the planet.     would have to be some real extremes in summer (which it has not) in order to make up for extremes in cold in the winter (which it also has not).

The planet doesn't and never has had an "average temp" that it stayed with month after month and year after year.  

People always knew this and just said..."what ya gonna do... can't do anything about the weather"

Now.. in their arrogance and desperation.. they are telling us that not only is the weather our fault but that we can change it.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #993 on: December 23, 2007, 12:07:38 PM »
"Was an imminent Ice Age predicted in the '70's? No"

LOL, exactly my thought. Since my memory goes that far I've always been baffled by the claim.
So, what I actually remember from my college years (80's) is a warming prediction.
The only cooling prediction was a cooling from dimming, then estimated to be most probable from nuclear war, or in second case a meteor/volcanic activity. (can be one following the other)
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #994 on: December 23, 2007, 12:10:22 PM »
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I didn't request simplification, just straightforward English in preference to the rambling gibberish that you posted.[/URL]


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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #995 on: December 23, 2007, 12:26:31 PM »
Last night I caught a story that bothered me.
The cost of tamales has risen very sharply because of the demand and shortage of available corn husks and the forcing of the corn production to be pushed towards alternative fuels.
I`m POed. You can carry things too far.
Don`t be messin with my tamales Willis.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #996 on: December 23, 2007, 12:37:51 PM »
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Last night I caught a story that bothered me.
The cost of tamales has risen very sharply because of the demand and shortage of available corn husks and the forcing of the corn production to be pushed towards alternative fuels.
I`m POed. You can carry things too far.
Don`t be messin with my tamales Willis.


It ain't just tamales either. We may be painting ourselves into a very painful corner. I hope someone is taking names so we'll know which junk scientists to lynch when the food riots begin.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #997 on: December 23, 2007, 03:03:53 PM »
Using corn isn't the most efficient method of producing ethanol.  Better options are available.

Twenty years ago, Brazil embarked on a program to make itself independent of outside fuel sources.  That program has been a complete success.  Brazilians supplement their natural oil supplies with ethanol produced from sugar cane, which is a far more efficient producer than corn.

I see no reason why the U.S. cannot implement a similar program.  While we might not become totally independent of foreign fuel nations, we could cut deeply into the amount purchased from our scurrilous middle-eastern suppliers.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #998 on: December 23, 2007, 03:19:59 PM »
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Brazilians supplement their natural oil supplies with ethanol produced from sugar cane, which is a far more efficient producer than corn.

I see no reason why the U.S. cannot implement a similar program.  


Here's one reason:
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #999 on: December 23, 2007, 04:07:32 PM »
Apparently Lazs, this thing would be capable of changing the weather if it was large enough.  Interestingly enough, it is referred to as an ionospheric heater.  Now I'm not going to speculate on whether this is a contributor to climate change, however it seems to be designed for this purpose.  It is an interesting read none-the-less.

HAARP ionospheric heater



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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1000 on: December 23, 2007, 04:13:52 PM »
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butt mode for a few months... will the drama queen alarmists ....etc etc.


Isn't this like the 49th thread where you've posted "Laz=cold means global warming=scam?"

Wouldn't just half that number be just as effective in converting the O-club?

(Oh wait ... finding old threads takes effort and ability)

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1001 on: December 23, 2007, 04:15:03 PM »
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Here's one reason:
Authur Daniels Midland Company


Eh-hmm...Archer Daniels Midland Company.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1002 on: December 23, 2007, 04:28:30 PM »
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Eh-hmm...Archer Daniels Midland Company.



Oops....thanks for the correction. :D

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1003 on: December 23, 2007, 04:31:01 PM »
I guess you still didn't figure out what "global warming" means in the last 20 theads larz. So why make a new thread? Oh and btw larz it's about 80 degrees here in Daytona Beach. Yet another Christmass in shorts I guess..
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #1004 on: December 23, 2007, 04:35:59 PM »
I bet Al Gore is turning his thermostat all the way down to 74 degrees now.
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