General Climate Discussion

[33Vortex]

IMHO the Global Warming is just another attempt at controlling us through the use of FEAR!

I've also come to look at the housing crash as someone or a group of someones trying to make money and creating a situation that led to it.

The oil problem is another thing and I find myself wondering if the Bilderberger types aren't neck deep in the thing............... doing their best to create a situation where they will come on and OFFER to fix everything .... all we need to do is give them CONTROL of the world?

You are thinking in the right way here, but looking for the wrong answers.

[Angus]

He can`t. He doesn`t believe they exist.
An underwater volcano atheist of sorts. 

Oh, jackie, this is actually a rude comment.
Of course there are, and many. One that used to be is visible from my living room, - it popped up from SL in 1963.
I actually live on top of another one, - well, it was a rift.
This comment of yours is a cheap slash, for I recall challenging you for data about sudden underseas volcanoes swiftly melting the N-Icecap from below.
I call for your source there again. Is the N-Icecap melting because of sudden underseas volcanoes?

I actually think that some of you guys are afraid of facing things. Just like the silly guys that always die in disaster movies.....

[33Vortex]

I actually think that some of you guys are afraid of facing things. Just like the silly guys that always die in disaster movies.....

This is funny, and I agree. Denial is a well known psychological defensive mechanism and conciously or unciously it's one of the most common, if not the most common one. It has the potential of playing a big part in evolution of mankind, as those who choose not to face facts could put themselves in a very nasty corner. Also, some industries are smart enough to promote this approach as it benefit their business.

[AKIron]

This is funny, and I agree. Denial is a well known psychological defensive mechanism and conciously or unciously it's one of the most common, if not the most common one. It has the potential of playing a big part in evolution of mankind, as those who choose not to face facts could put themselves in a very nasty corner. Also, some industries are smart enough to promote this approach as it benefit their business.

Indeed. As are power hungry individuals and governments looking for more influence and control through inciting fear.

[WWhiskey]

Waky waky!
The newest of all news from the northern Icecap is that despite a reasonably cold winter, as well as conditions that should mean "cold", there is an all out record in the maps with the low icelevels.
It is now expected that the melting might be complete (for summertime) in as little as 10 years.
i.e., no cap in 10 years, just some ice bobbing about here and there.

source please???

[Jackal1]

Oh, jackie, this is actually a rude comment.
Of course there are, and many. One that used to be is visible from my living room, - it popped up from SL in 1963.
I actually live on top of another one, - well, it was a rift.
This comment of yours is a cheap slash, for I recall challenging you for data about sudden underseas volcanoes swiftly melting the N-Icecap from below.
I call for your source there again. Is the N-Icecap melting because of sudden underseas volcanoes?

I actually think that some of you guys are afraid of facing things. Just like the silly guys that always die in disaster movies.....

LOL
Joke Angus. Lighten up bud.
But...........that`s just the point. Nobody can answer the question. Too little is known.
All that has been put forth so for has been total garbage and seems to change on a month to month basis.
Straw grasping at it`s best in the quest for the all mighty buck.
Ice has formed and melted since recorded history began. I see no reason why it would stop for us at this point.
Doomsaday for bucks. It`s big business..................... ...for the naive suckers.

[Russian]

.....errr

[Angus]

Ice has formed and melted. But something 1.000.000 years old whipping away in  some 40 years points at fast warming.
And guess what. Of course the oil companies have realized and accepted this, and are now searching areas that were non-accessible before with one side, while denying warming with the other.
Soooo funny......

[Jackal1]

Ice has formed and melted. But something 1.000.000 years old whipping away in  some 40 years points at fast warming.

What it points at is what has always happened on earth and always will. Change in structure.

[pallero]

The ice is still there.
North *click*
South *click*

[wrag]

Hmmmm.............

So someone is now pointing a finger.....................

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jun/23/fossilfuels.climatechange

I notice the U.S. media isn't touching this stuff with a 10 ft. pole?

[Angus]

Would you care to comment on the thickness...pallero?
And the N-Pole lines are showing...shrinking as far as I can see....

[Jackal1]

I notice the U.S. media isn't touching this stuff with a 10 ft. pole?

We have too many comedians in the media now.

[Angus]

Then enjoy the show
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7303385.stm

I mentioned thickness. The lack of it sends the lighter driftice further with currents, so now we get polar bears on our coasts all the time....
Anyway...thicknessssss:

[lazs2]

LOL.. "150 scientists including hansen"    But the sceptics can scrape up 30,000..

He wants them tried for crimes against humanity and he can't even prove that co2 causes any significant warming.

They are really getting desperate now...  Like I said.. the first warm spells of summer would bring all these scumbags back out into the light.

We heard nothing from them all winter.

At least they now admit that all their lying and exaggeration has hurt their case (as was linked in the article about how even the brits mostly don't trust em anymore).

The brits were the staunchest supporters of the whole scam and they are starting to wise up now with more than half thinking it is bs or at least highly exaggerated.... the whole house of cards won't survive another cold winter unless they push like crazy this summer.   A cool summer will doom the whole phony co2 movement.

lazs