Evil Iranians stike again

[x0847Marine]

During the US attack on Afghanistan, during a meeting in Europe between Ryan Crocker (deputy assistant secretary of state), Hillary Mann and a team of Iranian diplomats, the Iranians agreed to:

Provide assistance to US pilots downed near Iran
Let the U.S. send food in through the Iranian border
Agreed to restrain some "really bad Afghanis,"; Tehran quietly placed Gulbuddin Hekmatyar under house arrest.

Iran supplied the US with specific intelligence about Taliban assets that should be attacked. On top of that, they let it be known they were willing to hold "Unconditional talks" with the US.

Rumsfeld and Cheney rejected the idea. Deputy national security advisor, Stephen Hadley wrote a memo known as "Hadley's Rules", that stated:

"If a state like Syria or Iran offers specific assistance, we will take it without offering anything in return. We will accept it without strings or promises. We won't try to build on it."

After a full year of 'back door' high level diplomacy between Iran and the American government, without any prior warning to those involved in these talks, Bush gave his "axis of evil" speech. Either Bush didn't know the Iranians helped, and offered to talk unconditionally.. or Bush just doesn't care. Despite calling Iran evil, negotiations with Iran continued every month for another year.

When Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann went public with the Iran talks, the White House fired them and imposed "prior restraint".

Iran also agreed agreed, via the a fax from the Swiss, to:
"Decisive action" against all terrorists in Iran
An end of support for Hamas and the Islamic Jihad
To cease its nuclear program, and also an agreement to recognize Israel.

The Bush administration ignored the offer, then lodged a "formal complaint" with the Swiss government about their ambassador's meddling.

http://www.esquire.com/features/iranbriefing1107

[Tiger]

Ah yes, Esquire the magazine has always been the source for indepth polical news.

[Toad]

I think even Bush has figured out we couldn't handle another large scale military op at this point.

[Yeager]

The U.S. military has reported that Iran has smuggled advanced surface-to-air missiles into Iraq for the purpose of downing U.S. combat aircraft.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/me_iran_10_22.asp

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Tiger
Ah yes, I am a tard!

[T0J0]

I turn to esquire when I want fair un-biased op-ed, don't you all?

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by x0847Marine
During the US attack on Afghanistan, during a meeting in Europe between Ryan Crocker (deputy assistant secretary of state), Hillary Mann and a team of Iranian diplomats, the Iranians agreed to:

Provide assistance to US pilots downed near Iran
Let the U.S. send food in through the Iranian border
Agreed to restrain some "really bad Afghanis,"; Tehran quietly placed Gulbuddin Hekmatyar under house arrest.

Iran supplied the US with specific intelligence about Taliban assets that should be attacked. On top of that, they let it be known they were willing to hold "Unconditional talks" with the US.

Rumsfeld and Cheney rejected the idea. Deputy national security advisor, Stephen Hadley wrote a memo known as "Hadley's Rules", that stated:

"If a state like Syria or Iran offers specific assistance, we will take it without offering anything in return. We will accept it without strings or promises. We won't try to build on it."

After a full year of 'back door' high level diplomacy between Iran and the American government, without any prior warning to those involved in these talks, Bush gave his "axis of evil" speech. Either Bush didn't know the Iranians helped, and offered to talk unconditionally.. or Bush just doesn't care. Despite calling Iran evil, negotiations with Iran continued every month for another year.

When Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann went public with the Iran talks, the White House fired them and imposed "prior restraint".

Iran also agreed agreed, via the a fax from the Swiss, to:
"Decisive action" against all terrorists in Iran
An end of support for Hamas and the Islamic Jihad
To cease its nuclear program, and also an agreement to recognize Israel.

The Bush administration ignored the offer, then lodged a "formal complaint" with the Swiss government about their ambassador's meddling.

http://www.esquire.com/features/iranbriefing1107

How many iranian created / supplied IED's have killed US troops?

[JB88]

i don't see how anyone who watches fox news could possibly trust any other news source.

[Reschke]

At that time and under the previous Iranian governmental leadership it would have been possible to have an open discussion with them concerning their helping against terror activities. BUT as usual our government screwed up and even though I don't agree with US foreign policy I still support our government and will do so through the good and the bad.

I have a few contacts in that part of the world from business relationships and up until a year or so ago news and views flowed freely back and forth. In general anything other than hello and how is your family is not exchanged with those same contacts any longer. One of my contacts that I consider a friend told me of an encounter with a group of extremely fit, Caucasian, western (non-European) men in the areas bordering the Baluchistan regions near Afghanistan and Pakistan. This was immediately after the big kick off in Afghanistan after 9/11.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Tiger
Ah yes, Esquire the magazine has always been the source for indepth polical news.

Not like most of the expert posters here, I reckon. Ain't got nuthin' but I hate your source!

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Yeager
The U.S. military has reported that Iran has smuggled advanced surface-to-air missiles into Iraq for the purpose of downing U.S. combat aircraft.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/me_iran_10_22.asp

And just cause it's the trendy thing:

"This newspaper exists because we believe the world's most influential nation is poorly served by U.S.media outlets that focus on domestic political and cultural issues to the exclusion of relevant news affecting the other five-and-a-half billion people in the world. The Internet is perhaps the most obvious facilitator of an increasingly global economy and culture. While the United States is the world's leading power, in the years since the U.S. retreat from Vietnam, and especially after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the American media outlets have significantly decreased available resources for the coverage of international news. "

Yardle yardle yardle blah blah (waive a flag then wrap your fave agenda in it) humpity pumpity (look ma, I'm biased, too), etc.

[Yeager]

One of my contacts that I consider a friend told me of an encounter with a group of extremely fit, Caucasian, western (non-European) men in the areas bordering the Baluchistan regions near Afghanistan and Pakistan.
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Ok, Im lost here...what were you getting at?

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Yeager
Ok, Im lost here...what were you getting at?

The first part is confirmed by the second.

[AKIron]

If there were any justice in the world, (and there ain't much) all those Iranian and muslim apologists would be the first to go when muslim terrorists set off a nuke or two in a western country.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by x0847Marine
Tehran quietly placed Gulbuddin Hekmatyar under house arrest.

Hekmatiyar still alive!? What a "biography"!

Key word: "quietly".

Some nations start media-hype, some just do what they should. Who will ever remember that in 2001 Russians sent hundreeds on tanks, BMPs  and tons of ammo and arms to Northern Alliance? We had two pontoon bridges across Pianj river, 201st infantry division provided advisors and training to Afghani resistance, and now Americans made us withdraw from Tajikistan to keep heroin traffic going.

Keep watching TV guys. It's soothing.