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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2007, 07:28:06 PM »
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Double-check a few of those planes:

P-51H never saw combat.
Spitfire 21 never engaged the enemy.
La-9 was a 1946 fighter and therefore missed WWII.

Meteor III was used for ground attack at end of war.
P-47M did see combat at the end of the war with 56th Fighter Group.
Il-10 was used in the war.

Spitfire 21s did do some ground attack.  Sank a German minisub.
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2007, 09:17:30 PM »
Didn't know that about the Spit 21s taking out a mini sub. I'd read that they had flown some patrols, but wasn't aware they'd ever fired on anything. As for the P-51H, I was under the impression that it was operational like the F8F and F7F, but just missed out on combat.
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2007, 11:46:49 PM »
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Didn't know that about the Spit 21s taking out a mini sub. I'd read that they had flown some patrols, but wasn't aware they'd ever fired on anything. As for the P-51H, I was under the impression that it was operational like the F8F and F7F, but just missed out on combat.


Yeah, the P-51H was operational, had been for a few months. They were just beginning to arrive in theater when Japan tossed in the towel. Pilots were flying familiarization flights out of Iwo Jima beginning the week before the surrender. However, we're talking about 5 planes and none flying more than 50 miles from Iwo. Had any Japanese aircraft been in the general area, I suspect the Mustangs would have been vectored that way. However, no enemy were operational anywhere near Iwo Jima during daylight.

A two plane detachment of Marine F7F-2N night fighters went operational on August 13th... Japan quit the next day. No joy in Mudville.

I have no issue introducing fighters that were operational at the surrender. Operational in the sense that they were in squadrons and combat ready. However, as I stated previously, there's many significant aircraft that saw years of combat that are not yet in the game. It'll be a long, long wait for a Bearcat....

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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2007, 12:30:40 AM »
with or without exploding wingtips........:lol

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2007, 12:59:16 AM »
I'd love to have night fighters and some night scenerios. there were a ton of good night fighters.. I don't want too look up the exact specs atm though. Will later.

I misclicked one of my note cards and found this, thought it might interest a few:


Air Group Title         Beaufighter X
Air Group Notes         The T.F. Mk X was designed primarily
         for service with Coastal Command as an anti-shipping
         strike fighter.  A heavy gun armament and provisions
         for both bombs and a torpedo made it very deadly in      
         this role and the type eventually became known as
         "Whispering Death".
Aircraft Specifications
   Power Plant:    Two Bristol Hercules XVII fourteen-cylinder air-cooled
         radial engines rated at 1,770 HP.
   Armament:       4 - 20mm Hispano cannon and 6 - 0.303in Browning MGs.          
         Maximum weapons load of one Mk XII (18in) aerial
         torpedo and a pair of 250lb bombs (later in the war it
         could carry 8 - 90lb rockets in place of the bombs).  
         ASV radar mounted in the nose.
   Performance:    Maximum Speed 303 mph, Combat Radius 720 miles,
         Initial Climb Rate 1,700 ft/min,  
         Service Ceiling 27,000 feet.
   Weights:        15,600 lbs empty, 25,200 lbs loaded
   Dimensions:     Wingspan, 57 ft. 10 in; Length, 41 ft. 8 in.;
         Height, 15 ft. 10 in.; Wing Area, 503 sq ft.


I wanted to mention the skipping bomb used by Lancs. They would drop these bombs on the water at low alt, and they would skip across the water, hitting shore installments, or ships. This might be a cool little feature.. would just require a new ord layout. One or two per flight with nothing else..

Air Group Title         Lancaster III
Air Group Notes         The standard Lancaster I with modified equipment and an enlarged
         bomb bay to allow for the carrying of the special 22,000lb "Grand Slam"
         bomb.  The Grand Slam and other special bombs were used for special
         targets only and against normal targets the Lancaster III carried a
         bombload about the same as that of the Lancaster I.

Aircraft Specifications
   Power Plant:    Four Rolls-Royce Merlin 22 engines rated at 1,460 HP.
   Armament:       8 - 0.303in MG, 2 in a nose turret, 2 in a dorsal turret and 4 in a            
         tail turret.  Maximum bombload - 22,000lbs (the "Grand Slam" bomb).  
         Normal bombload about 14,000lbs.
   Performance:    Maximum Speed 287 mph, Combat Radius 1,440 miles,
         Service Ceiling 24,500 feet.
   Weights:        36,900 lbs empty, 70,000 lbs loaded (max).
   Dimensions:     Wingspan, 102 ft.; Length, 69 ft. 6 in.;
         Height, 20 ft.; Wing Area, 1,297 sq ft.

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FOR EASY COMPARISON
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Air Group Title         Lancaster
Air Group Notes         The finest British heavy bomber of the
         war and perhaps the finest heavy bomber of the war,
         period.  The Lancaster, with its capacious bombbay,
         was able to use several special bombs including the
         Wallis skipping drum bomb (used on the Mohne, Eder
         and Sorpe dams in the Rhur valley), the 12,000lb AP
         "Tallboy" (used to sink the Tirpitz in 1944) and the
         22,000lb "Grand Slam" (used against the Bielefeld
         Viaduct in 1945).

Aircraft Specifications
   Power Plant:    Four Rolls-Royce Merlin 20 or 22 engines rated
         at 1,460 HP.
   Armament:       8 - 0.303in MG, 2 in a nose turret, 2 in a dorsal
         turret and 4 in a tail turret.  Maximum
         bombload - 14,000lbs (later versions will be              
         equipped to handle the 22,000lb Grand Slam).
   Performance:    Maximum Speed 287 mph, Combat Radius 1,440 miles,
         Service Ceiling 24,500 feet.
   Weights:        36,900 lbs empty, 65,000 lbs loaded (max).
   Dimensions:     Wingspan, 102 ft.; Length, 69 ft. 6 in.;
         Height, 20 ft.; Wing Area, 1,297 sq ft.
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