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Offline Tigeress

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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2007, 03:19:36 PM »
PC? mmmm... computer made by IBM.

ohhhh... That PC! What was the question?

hahahahahaha :rofl :rofl :rofl

Ok, seriously, PC = President's Choice. A brand name of Loblaw Companies Limited.

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PS: that was for Neubob's funny bone :)
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2007, 03:21:33 PM »
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Originally posted by Tigeress
PC? mmmm... computer made by IBM.

ohhhh... That PC! What was the question?

hahahahahaha :rofl :rofl :rofl

TIGERESS

PS: that was for Neubob's funny bone :)


Much appreciated :)

Funny bone's been growing a lot of fat on it lately.

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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2007, 04:04:23 PM »
Although “Political Correctness” is often taken too far, it still is essential.  In my mind it means withholding prejudice or degrading speech and actions.  If you have an urge to call every black person you see a “%#$ N.....”, but you don’t, then you are exhibiting political correctness.  Motivation to be politically correct can come from: wanting to keep one’s job, wanting to avoid a fight, wanting to not look bad in the eyes of people who do not share your prejudice, wanting to not get kicked off a forum, etc.

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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2007, 04:06:36 PM »
Politically Correct is a term used by weak useless individuals to protect weak useless individuals.
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2007, 04:19:52 PM »
PC is excessive politeness, it's not essential at all, especialy not in politics.  Politics are inherently going to ruffle feathers.
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2007, 05:18:55 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2007, 05:38:12 PM »
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Although “Political Correctness” is often taken too far, it still is essential.  In my mind it means withholding prejudice or degrading speech and actions.  If you have an urge to call every black person you see a “%#$ N.....”, but you don’t, then you are exhibiting political correctness.  Motivation to be politically correct can come from: wanting to keep one’s job, wanting to avoid a fight, wanting to not look bad in the eyes of people who do not share your prejudice, wanting to not get kicked off a forum, etc.


what he said.

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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2007, 05:41:57 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2007, 06:30:34 PM »
Politicaly Correct Language is how one portion of our society controls the first amendmants fundimental protections for another portion of our society. If one segemt of our society fears speaking their mind and convictions, they eventualy can only speak the ideas and convictions of the portion controling the common language.

Stalin and Goebbels perfected this.

Modern american PC language(Politically Correct\ Language of the protected Victoms groups) is a stellar tribute to learning from history. They seem to have conveined a constitutional convention sometime back in the 70's or 80's that most of the country missed and amended the constitution to include a fundimental right to be offended by anything the offendee decides is offensive as long as they are not a white hetero male W.A.S.P. and vote republican.

It works very well today. You just threaten the perceived offender with remembering their name(keeping a list) with a promise of monitoring thier conduct for an open ended amount of time and use that as a veiled overture to more dire consiqueses if the offending language or actions ever show up again..... and bada beem badda boom whipped waspy.

But if they ignore your threat you file charges with HR, ACLU, lawyers, or smear them with adhominem personal attacks on a public web page with words like neanderthal, ideiot, retarded, racist, sexist, homophobe, and the worst "CHRISTIAN FUNDIMENTAL" and you have just engaged in stripping your fellow citizen of the first amendmant protections that are supposed to protect all citizens from "RETRIBUTION" for unfavorable language.

I think the latter is more to the point of what PC is today.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2007, 06:46:50 PM »
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“The struggle is always between the individual and his sacred right to express himself and... the power structure that seeks conformity, suppression and obedience.” —Justice William O. Douglas



My opinion has already been said by someone else...........


"Political correctness is really a subjective list put together by the few to rule the many a list of things one must think, say, or do. It affronts the right of the individual to establish his or her own beliefs." —Mark Berley
 


Sums up my opinion on the subject as well.
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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2007, 07:25:30 PM »
PC is plastic speak.

It also sounds like someone who is terribly afraid of saying something that "might" hurt someone's ultra thin skin.

My grandmother used say: "If you can't say anything nice about someone then just don't say anything".  That would be my personal preference.

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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2007, 07:26:10 PM »
PC = not me.
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« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2007, 08:42:48 PM »
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in the words of butt-head.

"ahh, it's like stupid?"


Beavis' response

"Hmm Hmm yeah it sucks, IT SUCKS!!"



But seriously, i believe it is going to any length to not so much as seem insensitive. it is to a point in which you will live in a fantasy dream world where in reality you sacrifice liberty and security to seem "morally superior".

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« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2007, 08:51:45 PM »
A pattern of speech used to cover one's idiocy.

It is a shame we have it.  We need to let the idiots identify themselves openly.
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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2007, 08:57:56 PM »
Here's something interesting to read Neubob, if you have some time to read it...it is somewhat lengthy.  It is a psychoanalytical explanation of political correctness.

Psychodynamics of Political Correctness


Personally I don't see PC as being a form of politeness.  Quite the opposite.  I see it as a heavy handed and oppressive form of avoiding or squelching debate.  A common characteristic of PC is the changing of traditional vocabulary to describe things...from the specific to the vague in order to confuse.  Confusion is the desired effect of political correctness.  How many times have you seen a speaker receive a standing ovation for a speech you couldn't understand?  You may ask yourself why someone didn't raise their hand and ask the speaker to explain themselves better?  The answer is simply because no one else understands the presentation either, but they don't have the courage to stand up and demand "Hey wait a minute here.  What did you say?"  It's polite to applaud a good speech.  It's PC to applaud a speech consisting of psychobabble.

What is psychobabble?  When clear meaning is perverted with words which have a multitude of meanings with no clear meaning at all, we have "psychobabble." Psychobabble is something the PC crowd finds of very great value, since it can be used as a handy replacement for thinking.  Psychobabble just sounds important and definitive.  Simple example of PC psychobabble:  "janitor" is transformed to "sanitary engineer."  We know what a janitor does.  What the heck does a sanitary engineer do?  Why is the word "janitor" somehow demeaning?  It's an honorable and necessary occupation.  Why does it have to sound like more than it is?

PC is psychobabble, but PC demands applause of approval instead of hard questions.  To do so would be un PC.  Academic and university settings are notorious for this, because no one wants to look stupid among their peers by admitting they don't understand a speaker.  I think this is how PC has gained such a strong foothold.  Psychobabble is overflowing in these institutions of higher learning.

Because language is so closely related to culture, to change traditional language has the effect of changing traditional culture.  If language becomes vague and less descriptive, (or worse... becomes deceiving,) the cultural result will be more towards a blurring of the objective and subjective, and we see this with a PC moral relativity attempting to confuse an understanding of absolute right and wrong.  PC tries to equalize cultures (multiculturalism), so if something is ok for one culture but not acceptable here, PC will validate it on the grounds it is ok for that culture, so why not here?  It will not deal with absolutes because absolutes don't exist in a realm of vagueness and non reality.

PC also minimizes or dismisses contributions by Western civilization (Greece and Rome) in favor of those made by lesser civilizations.  Admittedly we do now know more about some of those civilizations and they are very interesting and have made important contributions, but they should never overlord unarguably significant contributions of universal importance.  One aspect of PC is the removal of the notion of achievement and merit.  I wonder if the words "good", "better" and "best" will eventually disappear from our dictionaries.

PC is a regressive social phenomenon, the purpose of which is to reserve power to "the anointed."   In this case, PC is an attempt by academics to decide how everyone else should speak and act.  After all, they know best what is politically correct not just for them, but for us as well.:rolleyes:





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