The right to keep and bear ... ???

[Coshy]

I had some errands to run today, two were to local government offices, DHHR and DMV. Both places had prominent signage stating carrying a firearm was prohibited.

As these are government agencies isn't them prohibiting firearms an infringement of my right to bear arms?

I'm just really curious how this works. I'm sure its the same for other government buildings, post offices, courthouses, etc.

Any insight or comments?

[midnight Target]

Seems to point to the fact that you don't have the individual right to bear arms unless you're in a militia.


(ya'll can move over here from that other thread now...)

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Seems to point to the fact that you don't have the individual right to bear arms unless you're in a militia.


(ya'll can move over here from that other thread now...)

sniffs.... swims away

[texasmom]

Originally posted by midnight Target
(ya'll can move over here from that other thread now...)

pass back those burnt peanuts before you shift your chair over here MT.

[SteffK]

*Looks at arms and wonders how to get fire from them*

[indy007]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Seems to point to the fact that you don't have the individual right to bear arms unless you're in a militia.


(ya'll can move over here from that other thread now...)

A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


It does not say the right of the militia to keep and bear arms.
It clearly says the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

The militia bit simply acknowledges that a standing body of armed men is neccessary to secure freedoms.

[john9001]

as one congressman said to a reporter about a law that was overturned, "we pass a lot of unconstitutional laws around here".

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Seems to point to the fact that you don't have the individual right to bear arms unless you're in a militia.


(ya'll can move over here from that other thread now...)

Cept that your forgetting the fact that if your a US citizen
You ARE the militia

[Dichotomy]

Originally posted by texasmom
pass back those burnt peanuts before you shift your chair over here MT.

geez lugging this chair around is tiring... want a margarita TXMOM?

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by Coshy
I had some errands to run today, two were to local government offices, DHHR and DMV. Both places had prominent signage stating carrying a firearm was prohibited.

As these are government agencies isn't them prohibiting firearms an infringement of my right to bear arms?

I'm just really curious how this works. I'm sure its the same for other government buildings, post offices, courthouses, etc.

Any insight or comments?

Did it say "carring a firearm was prohibited"?  or "carring an UNLICENSED firearm is prohibited"

[texasmom]

Originally posted by Dichotomy
geez lugging this chair around is tiring... want a margarita TXMOM?

Oh, thanks very much.  You know, I actually don't drink at all.  If you have any iced tea though, I'd love some of that.

[Coshy]

Originally posted by Airscrew
Did it say "carring a firearm was prohibited"?  or "carring an UNLICENSED firearm is prohibited"

It was a simple printed sign that said no firearms allowed.

I'm not trolling or looking to stir the pot, I'm really wondering how this is possible. How can a government agency tell me I cant carry a firearm? There are no signs saying I cant, for example, give a speech on my thoughts about the substitution of high frutcose corn syrup for sugar in my soda. Nor are they telling me I dont have the right to vote while on their premises (19th ammendment).

I can understand the purpose of prohibiting firearms, but I cant seem to wrap my head around how they are legally able to do it.

As for the rest of the spectators ... I'm actually seriously looking for how this is right. I really can't wrap my head around it.

[texasmom]

Originally posted by Coshy
As for the rest of the spectators ... I'm actually seriously looking for how this is right. I really can't wrap my head around it.

We're seriously watching for the same thing.  But we'll keep it down from now on. Sorry.

pssst.. y'all... sshhh!

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by Coshy
It was a simple printed sign that said no firearms allowed.

I'm not trolling or looking to stir the pot, I'm really wondering how this is possible. How can a government agency tell me I cant carry a firearm? There are no signs saying I cant, for example, give a speech on my thoughts about the substitution of high frutcose corn syrup for sugar in my soda. Nor are they telling me I dont have the right to vote while on their premises (19th ammendment).

I can understand the purpose of prohibiting firearms, but I cant seem to wrap my head around how they are legally able to do it.

As for the rest of the spectators ... I'm actually seriously looking for how this is right. I really can't wrap my head around it.

It's possible because for us to challenge ANYTHING constitutionally would cost us millions of dollars.  They rest that no one will really pay millions of dollars to overthrow the no firearms signs on DMV's.

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by Coshy
It was a simple printed sign that said no firearms allowed.

I'm not trolling or looking to stir the pot, I'm really wondering how this is possible.

And I'm not suggesting you are trolling or stirring... I am just pointing out the difference.  All the signs I can recall seeing say "possesion of an unlicensed firearm is prohibited"...  I cant say I recall the signs in the post office, I just recall the signs on bars and liquior stores  I guess I'll have to check it out next time.  

Are you sure it said what you think it said... sometimes we read with out reading...