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Offline Halo

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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2007, 05:49:00 PM »
39-gallon Lawn and Leaf Bags work really well.  If you train the kids when they're small, they fit right in with no problem.  If you wait too late to start, it's a lot more problem to get the bag tied tight enough around their waist.  

It's surprising how long some kids can hold their breath.  Be prepared to count up to a thousand three before you open the bag.  Don't let them fool you into opening the bag too soon.  Remove their socks and see if their toenails are blue or you'll have to repeat the whole process only longer.  

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2007, 05:53:20 PM »
Someone needs to invite a taser for kids.

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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2007, 06:10:15 PM »
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Someone needs to invite a taser for kids.


Invite or invent?

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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2007, 06:19:08 PM »
Picky picky.  They both begin with I.  They both are verbs.  Close enough.  :confused:

More important: taser, laser, or eraser?
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Offline nirvana

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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2007, 06:48:43 PM »
My mom broke a wooden spoon over my hind quarters one time, that was all the encouraging I needed.  Neither me nor my sister have ever gotten punished, except for the previously mentioned act, and neither of us have gotten in trouble at school so I don't know what to tell you.  

I think spanking does good but my communications teacher would tell you that it's telling the child that it's okay to let people abuse you.  In addition, they don't respect you, they just fear you.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2007, 01:09:56 AM »
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PS:  I don't want to sound like I'm harshing on you Gun.  These things are scaled to the amount and severity of the corporal punishment.


There is a difference between giving your child a swat on their butt from time to time to get their attention and beating them with a stick on a daily basis.


Thrawn I 100% agreed with what you said earlier in that it depends on the kid/circumstances/age.

When I say "beat" my kids I mean spanking.  Now I don't hand those out too rarely in my house because I don't need to.  My kids know that when they get a simple spanking they have done the absolute worse and that they've caused mommy and daddy a great amount of heartache (yes we lay the guilt into them too.  All angles is what I say).  

BUT, like you said grinding the playdoe into the carpet is not an bellybutton woopin.  Spilling your cherry soda in the living room isn't an bellybutton woopin.  These are "mistakes" and should be dealt with and no excused.  However, they should be dealt with understanding, and like you said thrawn, age appropriate punishment if even necessary.  

However, throwing sand in the neighbor kids eyes or poking your brothe with a pencile requires a completley different hand of discipline.

As allways I make sure my kids KNOW why there being punished and punish them appropriately to the circumstance/age.

One thing I learned early on as a parent is don't spank angry.  If my kid is catching a beating it should hurt me to do it as much as it hurts him.  There is nothing that deserves pain from anger.  

Another effective tool that I picked up on is "put your hands on the bed".  I tell my kids to go do this in anticipation of a butt woopin.  Somtimes I don't even give it to them as the act of anticipation is enough.  It also gives me the time to calm down and administer punisment in a cool frame of mind.

I honestly think thats the key.  OTOH  u have to give kids the respect they deserve.  They will surprise you around every corner.

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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2007, 02:30:56 AM »
Guns, sounds like you are one of the few remaining good parents. A good smack on the butt is what 98% of the kids I see everyday need. Usually the parents either ignore the kid, or just let the kid walk all over them and reward them for throwing a fit.

My sister follows your line of parenting and my niece knows to behave herself in public or there will be concequences. She's not Miss Manners, but she's not a holy terror either.


I was forced to go cut my own switch when I was a kid. That is punishment.
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2007, 03:20:16 AM »
Gunslinger mentioned earlier that kids need consistancy....and that is true, but only half of what else they need; the other part is...constancy.

Constant and Consistant discipline leads kids (and adults) to understanding their role in life. Constantly exhorting a child to be quiet during a certain time frame is not the same as exhorting the child to be quiet consistanly AND constantly during this same time frame. Constant and Consistant...two good friends.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2007, 03:35:59 AM »
Just curious....

Do you play Aces high?
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2007, 05:21:34 AM »
See, since they aren't my kids, I don't deal with that stuff.  Its not my place to parent em.  

Plus, there's 3 magic words that tend to mend any problem egos I get: "I'll talk to your Mom about this"

Boy, doesn't that change the attitude!

Its a different set of rules completely when they are someone else's kids!  I've been tempted to say things but my girlfriend is on top of it and handles it quickly

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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2007, 06:43:49 AM »
I learned very early in life to bring the proper sized switch back to my mother so that she could administer punishment.  If I didn't, and she had to go get it herself, she would uproot a peach-elum or chinaberry tree.    


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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2007, 09:20:33 AM »
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With my two kids the best "time out" punishment was the chair.  They are 5 and 8 and when I don't feel the punishment requires a beating I place them in chairs in the kitchen faceing eachother but 6-8 feet away from eachother for about 10 minutes.  

They are not allowed to talk or move or further punishment will result.  THEY ABSOLUTLY HATE THIS!  wich is what makes it so effective.

However, most parents mistakes do not fall in the lack of punishment catagory but rather the lack of consistancy.  Children from a very early age need to have engrained apon them that actions have consequences.  In that if you do "A" then "B" will happen to you.  It needs to happen EVERY SINGLE TIME for that punishment to become effective.  

Too many parents today are not willing to leave a cart full of groceries sitting in the isle to take their kids home and apply effective punishment for acting up in the store.  

As for my kids....they've learned the HARD way that in public.....its twice as bad.  I simply say "do I need to take you to the bathroom"  (wich is were we beat them) and instant improvment is acheived.  They learned that we were consistant that if they act up in stores they go to the bathroom and get a spanking......EVERY TIME!

Too many parents now a days "Excuse" bad behavior and don't apply effective punishment (what thrawn said) in a consistant mannor.


I wish more children had a Dad like you... and Mom... you two are no doubt in tune with each other on this.

My respect for you and your partner keeps going up.

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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2007, 09:25:51 AM »
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I learned very early in life to bring the proper sized switch back to my mother so that she could administer punishment.  If I didn't, and she had to go get it herself, she would uproot a peach-elum or chinaberry tree.  
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2007, 09:27:31 AM »
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A willow limb of the proper size and limberness will take a kid from maniac to ready for choir practice in under 20 seconds.
Put a woodshed back on every property and the youth of today will do a complete turnaround.
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