The Video Mrs Clinton doesnt want the world to see

[AKIron]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Wrong is wrong, there is no compromise.   I can't stand to see our soldiers acting in that manner, it is not how I teach my children to be, and I do not believe it is what "we" as a country stand for.  

I find it disgusting that tards just do what they want to do over there and noone says anything about it.  
Granted, this is not how all the soldiers act, but it is still unnacceptable in my book.  Teasing kids with water and this one as well:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2GnXuo-jotE

You might want to read the link I posted about John Kerry. One of his commanders commented that John Kerry didn't want to follow the rules of engagement but rather fire at anything for his own purposes.

[Shuckins]

Youtube....there's a reliable source.

True, the military has always had its fair share of dinks, idiots, ne-er-do-wells, psychopaths, and bigots.  Yet, to try to portray such individuals as being typical of the average American soldier is despicable.

The men and women who have volunteered to lay their lives on the line for their country are the finest examples of humanity that our country has to offer, regardless of their race, color, creed, or political orientation.  I say without fear of contradiction, that their conduct toward the citizens of an occupied country is at least as good as, if not better than, that of any other nation in the world.

Any unseemly conduct is an aberration....period.

As to Kerry, I have no doubt that he served his country about as well as any average GI did in Vietnam.  Whether he deserved the accolades heaped upon him by his backers, or by himself, is a matter of public debate and conjecture....which will never be completely settled until his records are finally released.

[Gunslinger]

Wow,

What a nice rehash of event that were discussed thoroughly in the 2004 election.

It doesn't change what is happening now in this election or that Hillary herself committed election fraud.

It was proven time and again 4 years ago that Kerry's testimony in the winter soldier investigation was a gross accumulation of fabrications.  To further his lie in his testimony he stated several things that he said he had witnessed that never happened.  Of cours that's done with and over and Kerry/Bush is old news.

[lazs2]

skyrock.. certainly.. I agree that those responsible for the rare as hens teeth atrocities be brought to justice but... do that and stop dwelling on it.

It is obvious that an agenda is what is driving most of it.. most of these soldiers have been convicted by you and the media before they have even been tried..  recent verdicts have exonerated soldiers that democrats have demonized.

I find that every bit as disgusting as the atrocity itself.   Why don't you just admit that such things are rare and that they are happening less with this army than with any other in the same situation?

Your agenda is showing again.    We get it.. you don't like the war... We get it.. you don't have a clue what to do and..  we get it.. you like to snipe from the sidelines at those who are doing the work.  

All this is fine but... you really need to tell us how "cut and run" is gonna work out well for us or anyone else.  

lazs

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Dago
Now there is the funniest single post I have ever seen on this board.  Head in the sand MT, do just a little homework on Hillary if you are not afraid of what you will find.

Anyone who would vote for her after everything that has been clearly and objectively documented about her is truely stupid or dense.

Or, it could just be you don't want to know, and won't risk learning.

I guess it's too late for some people.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I guess it's too late for some people.

Yes it is.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Shuckins
True, the military has always had its fair share of dinks, idiots, ne-er-do-wells, psychopaths, and bigots.  Yet, to try to portray such individuals as being typical of the average American soldier is despicable.

Completely wrong assumption, I have not tried to portray the average soldier that way, and have even went out of my way to say, "I do not believe this is the way most of the soldiers act"!  Reguardless, there are more than a handful who are taking advantage of a war zone to completely spew hate and abuse onto unarmed, innocent people, and take great joy in it.  


By the way, you tube video is just that, do you dispute the validity of the video?

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by lazs2
with this army than with any other in the same situation?

What situation is that?  An unwinnable one???  Who do we hold accountable?


 

Originally posted by lazs2

All this is fine but... you really need to tell us how "cut and run" is gonna work out well for us or anyone else.   lazs

Cut and run?????   LMAO!  I guess you believe we should still be in southeast asia!  Maybe Somalia!  

I think we should start withdrawing in '08 and re-build as much as you can on our way out.   Secure our borders and start deporting illegals immediately.  

[Dago]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I guess it's too late for some people.

Yes, but optimist we are, we still hold out hope you may see the light of day again in the future, and not be blinded by the sand covering your eyes down in that hole.

The sad thing is your hatred of Bush and all things conservative so overwhemingly exceed any small amount of affection you might have for this country that you actually hope for our country to lose in Iraq.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Dago
that you actually hope for our country to lose in Iraq.

The great falacy of these types of wars is there is no definable "Win"!  WWI allies won when Germany surrendered, WWII we won when Germany and Japan surrendered, Korea there was no surrender, Vietnam there was no surrender.  The question of what would we consider a win has not even been answered by the leaders of our country, so how do we know when we have won?  Mission accomplished???????????

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Wrong is wrong, there is no compromise.   I can't stand to see our soldiers acting in that manner, it is not how I teach my children to be, and I do not believe it is what "we" as a country stand for.  

I find it disgusting that tards just do what they want to do over there and noone says anything about it.  http://youtube.com/watch?v=2GnXuo-jotE

I'd suggest you find your way down to the recruiters office and join up.  I imagine in about four months, you could be over there "showing" our troops how it should be done.

[Dago]

Originally posted by SkyRock
The great falacy of these types of wars is there is no definable "Win"!  WWI allies won when Germany surrendered, WWII we won when Germany and Japan surrendered, Korea there was no surrender, Vietnam there was no surrender.  The question of what would we consider a win has not even been answered by the leaders of our country, so how do we know when we have won?  Mission accomplished???????????

Groan, you're not going to the ridiculous "Mission Accomplished" are you?  Enough tards have posted that crediting Bush only to be made to look ridiculous for it.

To anyone who has put even a small modicum of thought into the Iraq situation, the Iraq "win" parameters are evident.  We can declare "mission accomplished" and a win when Iraq with it's current democratically elected government can provide for their own security, and the security of the Iraqi people.

Despite the hopes and prayers of the pathetic left, guys like MT, objective reports from Iraq describe a nation where the situation is improving greatly.  Iraqi tribes have reversed their mindset and are now working closely with the US military, violence has dropped greatly, in many areas violent attacks on people and US forces is 10% or less that what it was 12 months ago.  This is just a small sample of the improvements that have occurred, and is continuing.

MT no doubt shares the fear of the pathetic left that Iraq will be a "win", that the goals of liberty and security are secured, and they will no longer be able to try to use the "failures" of Iraq as some more sad anti-Bush rhetoric.

There is certainly a ways to go, but the trend is very encouraging.

Can't wait until MT blames Bush for the California wildfires, and the 17 year circadias.  

[LePaul]

He wouldn't make it thru basic training.

[porkfrog]

I'm going to vote for Ron Paul. Really, I am. The only thing that we differ on is he's pro-life and I'm pro-choice.

My 2 cents.

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by Dago
Groan, you're not going to the ridiculous "Mission Accomplished" are you?  Enough tards have posted that crediting Bush only to be made to look ridiculous for it.

To anyone who has put even a small modicum of thought into the Iraq situation, the Iraq "win" parameters are evident.  We can declare "mission accomplished" and a win when Iraq with it's current democratically elected government can provide for their own security, and the security of the Iraqi people.

The US govt can't even accomplish that on American soil, take a guess how many "foreign nationals" murder & victimize US citizens every year because of our govts complete failure to provide adequate security?

So the country that can't secure it self, is going to judge when another country is secure? thats nice and ambiguous. Add that the sunni & shia have zero motivation to stop foreign fighters at the border who want to fight with them.

"Win" and "lose" are only opinions, since when did it become reasonable, or moral, to allow a quagmire of death & disease based on lies to continue unabated just so a few loser politicians can, in their liar opinions, save face?