Author Topic: P-51B dogfight capability.. (Read 1285 times)

leitwolf · « **on:** November 03, 2007, 05:27:34 PM »

Incoming Whine
Has the B-Pony been changed? It's just a shade of it's former self.

It can't turn anymore, flaps don't really help and it feels heavy and sluggish.

It's nowhere near the D-Pony in overall capability. Okay, it never was but it used to be a lot better than now. Especially in the "precision" and handling department it was better than the D.

Is it just me?

DoNKeY · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2007, 06:26:33 PM »

Not sure, but I know there was/is a big ol' discussin about how the pony's flaps should make for a tighter/faster turn.

~~donkey~~

Widewing · « **Reply #2 on:** November 04, 2007, 09:19:14 AM »

Various threads have addressed this...

Thread 1

Thread 2

My regards,

Widewing

splitatom · « **Reply #3 on:** November 04, 2007, 03:50:44 PM »

i cinda noticed it it doesnt turn with the ok turners like it used to it is still beter than a 190

Angus · « **Reply #4 on:** November 05, 2007, 12:23:38 PM »

It should outturn a 190 with 1 notch (190a8), but as of older times, I remember taking some 10 circles in a Spit XIV vs a P51D before seeing I was making some progress. And that's not quite...right IMHO.

leitwolf · « **Reply #5 on:** November 05, 2007, 12:42:06 PM »

Thanks Widewing.. the voice of reason

I didnt remember those threads, interesting read (again). I don't fly the -B very often and as such, it comes as a nasty surprise not being able to turn with a Lala (or even a light Jug..).

In earlier days of AH2, it used to be able to hang with a La7 long enough to panic most La drivers and force them into something stupid. Eventually, the Lala (at MA combat alt) will prevail, but not without a fight. These days there's no contest.

Ok, that is last year's news but the question is: is the new P-51 correct?

Bronk · « **Reply #6 on:** November 05, 2007, 03:39:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
It should outturn a 190 with 1 notch (190a8), but as of older times, I remember taking some 10 circles in a Spit XIV vs a P51D before seeing I was making some progress. And that's not quite...right IMHO.

What direction?

Because if it was a left hander, that torque monster was fighting you.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #7 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:31:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
What direction?

Because if it was a left hander, that torque monster was fighting you.

Yup the pony turns better to the left.

Makoyouidiot · « **Reply #8 on:** November 06, 2007, 10:52:26 AM »

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Originally posted by leitwolf
Thanks Widewing.. the voice of reason

I didnt remember those threads, interesting read (again). I don't fly the -B very often and as such, it comes as a nasty surprise not being able to turn with a Lala (or even a light Jug..).

In earlier days of AH2, it used to be able to hang with a La7 long enough to panic most La drivers and force them into something stupid. Eventually, the Lala (at MA combat alt) will prevail, but not without a fight. These days there's no contest.

Ok, that is last year's news but the question is: is the new P-51 correct?

Dunno what the problem is. I can still outfight anything with it.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #9 on:** November 07, 2007, 01:49:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Makoyouidiot
Dunno what the problem is. I can still outfight anything with it.

in a 51?

Bronk · « **Reply #10 on:** November 07, 2007, 09:03:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Makoyouidiot
Dunno what the problem is. I can still outfight anything with it.

Try Widewing in an F6F there hotshot.

Stang · « **Reply #11 on:** November 07, 2007, 11:24:13 AM »

The 51's flaps are bugged like the 38's were, but not quite to the same extreme.

Angus · « **Reply #12 on:** November 07, 2007, 01:06:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
What direction?

Because if it was a left hander, that torque monster was fighting you.

I belive it was to the right. Haven't flown the XIV in a while, but I remember the engagement. I actually jumped the 51 shortly after takeoff from a deacked field. If I recall right, I shot him down, and it was BTW some good stick. Can't remember who though. "Papy" perhaps...

Makoyouidiot · « **Reply #13 on:** November 07, 2007, 01:45:27 PM »

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Originally posted by SteveBailey
in a 51?

Quite so.

Makoyouidiot · « **Reply #14 on:** November 07, 2007, 01:45:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Try Widewing in an F6F there hotshot.

If he so desires.