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Offline Boroda

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« on: November 06, 2007, 04:26:52 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlNORX006-c

Is it a common practice to use AKs? Why are this guys so happy shooting "commie iron"?

No provocation here, just curious, i have read that in Vietnam Americans liked AKs but didn't use them because the sound attracted friendly fire.

And how can they talk to each other after shooting 12.7mm in a small room? ;)
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Offline Tac

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2007, 04:27:40 PM »
I guess its the fact that it doesnt jam or need much cleaning ;)
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2007, 04:50:55 PM »
I'm not a soldier but I would prefer an AK folder in a close quarters street fight. It shoots a reliable full Auto, and easily fired from the hip or higher.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 05:06:29 PM »
the US equipped the new Iraq army with AK's because they were familiar with the weapon and would require less training, also the AK's are allot cheaper than the M16.

i can't tell if the troops using the AK's are american or Iraqi. the lead says "US solders from the 3rd stryker brigade, 2nd infantry division alongside Iraqi troops from the 6th Iraqi army division engage insurgents, etc etc."

look at the arm patch.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2007, 05:16:53 PM by john9001 »
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Offline soda72

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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 05:13:52 PM »
The guys with the AK's are iraqi's...
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Offline Bodhi

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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 05:18:07 PM »
The two shooting in the end are Iraqi.
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Re: Kalash used by US Army in Iraq
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 05:27:51 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlNORX006-c

Is it a common practice to use AKs? Why are this guys so happy shooting "commie iron"?

No provocation here, just curious, i have read that in Vietnam Americans liked AKs but didn't use them because the sound attracted friendly fire.

And how can they talk to each other after shooting 12.7mm in a small room? ;)


It's not that they liked the AK47.  It's just that they hated the M16.

The only advantage the Ak47 had over the initial versions of the M16 was reliability.  Everything else was pretty much equal.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 05:31:46 PM »
No comments on the AK, but I love how the M-82 makes the plaster fall off the ceiling.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2007, 06:52:27 PM »
A lot of the spec ops guys I know prefer the old M-14 to either. They generally like the old 1911 better than the Beretta.

The AK family weapons are generally fine utility style weapons, cheap, reliable, and low maintenance. Not real accurate, especially at longer ranges, and not real powerful. They don't do anything really great, but they do most things fairly well. All in all a good weapon, and when you consider factors outside of how well the weapon does its job, it ranks up there among the top 10 of all time.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2007, 07:00:33 PM »
the AK is a great rifle like the T34 was a great tank (the best of its age imo).
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2007, 07:06:29 PM »
without a doubt the very best general issue weapon in the world.  it makes perfect sense if it is indeed the case they are being issued to US troops in iraq.  I kind of doubt it though.
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Offline cpxxx

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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2007, 07:08:42 PM »
Yes the two with the AK's are definitely Iraqi army. You can see they're wearing the old style 'chocolate chip' BDU's which has long since been superseded in the US Army but seems standard for the Iraqis.

As for the AK's. I seem to remember the US wanted to equip the Iraqi army with US rifles but the Iraqis preferred the AK and someone had to go and buy up a few thousand at $35 a pop. Rather ironic really.

I saw that piece of video before and couldn't help feeling that using a comrade's back or a rickety occasional table is hardly the most efficient use of an M82!
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2007, 09:56:21 PM »
Could not watch the video at work. I did see a guy that would carry an AK with a folding stock in his lap while on patrol in his Hummer. He said they were not allowed to carry the AKs but it was his best option for returning fire out the window due to its length .
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2007, 10:31:46 PM »
I thought a lot of the special forces guys were using AK's in Afghanistan, due to the fact they were often deep in enemy territory and not easily resupplied. So they used AK's because parts and ammo were easily found in the country.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2007, 03:43:27 AM »
Well, gentlemen, what will you say to those (pay attention to the images #2, #4, #13...):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaT5S3tk-Tw

Iraqis? :)
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