Author Topic: Hillary, your false face is showing (Read 5193 times)

Arlo · « **Reply #120 on:** November 19, 2007, 06:32:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Tigeress
Ahhh... a fellow opinionated moderate! HI!!!!!!!

Although I don't like pokin the poor dears with pointy sticks!

I''ll leave the smack-talk-man-stuff to you guys!

carry on!

TIGERESS

"But I stand apart from those laughing at the anti-Muslims thinking the entire faith of Islam salivates at the thought of burning my children alive to celebrate Ramadan."

Sheesh. This is what happens after you rewrite a sentence three times in a hurry (being called away to other tasks between) and proof-read too fast.

Alas, there's a time-limit for editing.

Make that:

"But I stand apart from those anti-Muslims laughing and thinking the entire faith of Islam salivates at the thought of burning my children alive to celebrate Ramadan."

Thanks, Tigress!

p.s. *hug* (from a touchy-feely gruffy)

lazs2 · « **Reply #121 on:** November 20, 2007, 08:47:01 AM »

arlo.. most socialist lefties like to tell people they are "moderate" so I expected nothing less from you. It matters not if I need an m16 or a hamburger or porn or whatever.. so long as I don't use it to harm you... none of your "moderate" business. you can't make one type of gun evil.. it is liberal socialist busybody nonsense.

socialism is evil. It is indeed a religion. capitalism is not what this country was founded on.. individualism and individual rights and freedom is what it was founded on and socialism is the enemy of that.

You can't be "moderate" and a socialist. with one exception... you can be a socialist with not power over anyone else... you can have all the socialist programs in the world.. so long as they are voluntary...

Get it? no? that is called charity. socialism is not "moderate" socialism says.. "I think it is a good idea for you to support others who wont or can't so I am going to take your property away to do so.. if you resist.. I will kill you."

How exactly is that a "moderate" stance?

aerosmith sucks.

women or negros (you are calling then black people right?) or homos don't scare me.. neiter do muslims... so long as they have no power over me.

and that is the rub.. as soon as they have power over my life.. then they are a threat.

I am the true moderate. I allow everyone to be equal. The fear comes about when things are taken from for some percieved slight or inequality ...

liberalism is indeed all around us. PC and hate crimes and affirmative action... all affect us on a daily basis... a form of newspeak.. a most terrible form of socialism and censorship.

I don't need the government to tell me what are good or bad guns.. or how to talk to people or who I should hire to do a job or what words are acceptable. I don't need you in my pockets to "help" people.. I have seen how much liberal socialist programs have "helped" people in this country.. the end does not justify the means... the means is all we have.

you are not a moderate in the least unless you are using some scale that starts with marx and end with hillay.

lazs

Arlo · « **Reply #122 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:35:01 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
arlo.. I don't agree with the way you describe yourself based on my own perception but I have this obsessive compulsion to reinterpret what you say and read into it what I want to see so I can justify my personal agenda .... or ....

"I see libruls! *gasp* They're everywhere! *faint* And they're easy to identify cause they're not like me!"

ad nauseum ... rinse and repeat endlessly

Yawn .... phew.

ghi · « **Reply #123 on:** November 20, 2007, 06:52:35 PM »

i`m watching US news every evening more than canadian news, and the economy in Ontario and Canada is more dependent of Washington than Otawa, i think this guy is more competent than any other republican and democrat candidate, i hope he is going to run, i would contribuite 500$ for his campaign

Dago · « **Reply #124 on:** November 20, 2007, 07:24:07 PM »

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Originally posted by ghi

i`m watching US news every evening more than canadian news, and the economy in Ontario and Canada is more dependent of Washington than Otawa, i think this guy is more competent than any other republican and democrat candidate, i hope he is going to run, i would contribuite 500$ for his campaign

I can't agree, Lou Dobbs is the type to ***** about everything, and I swear his main goal is to attack America, not lead it to anything better.

Arlo · « **Reply #125 on:** November 20, 2007, 07:28:59 PM »

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Dago didn't post this but it makes more sense
I can't agree, Rush Limbaugh is the type to ***** about everything, and I swear his main goal is to attack America, not lead it to anything better.

Seems more like. Perception, I reckon.

lazs2 · « **Reply #126 on:** November 21, 2007, 09:13:12 AM »

arlo.. thanks for proving my point... you got nothing but the fake quote and the one liner.

Your thinking is beyond shallow or.. dishonest or both. You won't say what you think except in broad terms because you are afraid. afraid people will see the real agenda. It is far from moderate.

you won't talk about any issue except in satire because... other than the crappy jon stewart immitation.. you got nothing.. you fear having to back up what you say so you stay as silent as you can while ridiculing select parts of what others say. sheesh.. at least when stewart has his writers behind him he can be funny.. you have to put smiley faces so that we know you are funny.. who are you trying to convince?

Here is the challenge.. pick a topic and how you feel about it and we will debate.. you mentioned gun control... I am willing to hear what you have to say...

Oh wait... you did quip on in at the militia thread... no substance... anyone surprised? either you are as empty of thinking as you appear or as afraid of stating what you think as you appear.

lazs

Arlo · « **Reply #127 on:** November 21, 2007, 03:04:28 PM »

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Dear Lazs,

Thank you for your wet panties concern over my ability to express myself versus your .... ummmm .... talent .... for such, though I've never had a problem stating my position or speaking my mind. It's always refreshing to see you stuck to my ankle. I know the holidays are a hard time for some. You'll make it through one more Thanksgiving, I'm sure. Just fill yourself a couple of more glasses.

your favorite ankle,

Arlo

Dago · « **Reply #128 on:** November 22, 2007, 02:33:38 AM »

Wow Arlo, you could not have illustrated your left bent better if you tried. You followed exactly the example of the moronic little leftie college kids who would yell and disrupt a conservative trying to give a speech at a college because they didn't agree.

You follow the example: Don't let someone have a say because you don't agree with them. You just instead change my words to what you want to hear, you can't risk another persons opinion being stated, you would rather restrict their right to free speech.

lazs2 · « **Reply #129 on:** November 22, 2007, 10:39:02 AM »

yep... proving my point yet again. Let's see.. I said he had no substance except a crappy jon stewart imitation and gave him a chance to prove otherwise by picking a topic that he believed in and give us some substance.. to prove he was a "moderate" and not afraid to say what he thinks.

he replies by making a crappy jon stewart imitation reply and avoiding any topic out of fear and lefty dishonesty.

read what he says about gun control... he doesn't think...er.. maybe he doesn't think or.. maybe he does think... oh..yeah.. he thinks that if he NEEDS an m16 to defend himself then he will just run away from that place.

Does that mean that he thinks we should not be allowed to have a stoner designed carbine with select fire? who knows? does that mean our rights are based on need? "from each according to their abilty and to each according to their need" sort of thing?

seems so...

lazs

airguard · « **Reply #130 on:** November 22, 2007, 12:44:13 PM »

intresting post, seems like you Americans have the same intelligent way to post your opinions like us Norwegian.

I usually ask myselve after a campain -> what the *** ??? Never really remembering what the candidates stood up for ??

Tigeress · « **Reply #131 on:** November 22, 2007, 05:04:05 PM »

I get such a kick out of you guys smack-talkin each other!

It should be classified as an artform!

Arlo, you are a maestro! as are you Lazs and the rest of you guys!

Meanwhile Clinton is rising in the polls.

Never thought I would live to see a woman elected president in my lifetime but it looks like Bush pee-owed enough people to ensure it.

She is, after all, a politician; not an angel. I don't trust the lot, lefties or righties; innies or outies, and that includes her and her husband and the rest of the presidental hopefuls, righties and lefties.

At least with Clinton we will have a lot of entertainment. That will, no doubt, be furtile enough new ground to bring president bashing to a whole new and as yet undiscovered level!

As Billy Clinton said... "elect me and you get two for the price of one"; guess that still holds.

Shoot she might get to serve two terms with Billy running amock in the white house for 8 more years.

Is it legal for Billy to serve as her Vice-President?

TIGERESS

Dago · « **Reply #132 on:** November 22, 2007, 05:24:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Tigeress
I get such a kick out of you guys smack-talkin each other!
It should be classified as an artform!

Arlo, you are a maestro! as are you Lazs and the rest of you guys!

Meanwhile Clinton is rising in the polls.

Never thought I would live to see a woman elected president in my lifetime but it looks like Bush pee-owed enough people to ensure it.

She is, after all, a politician; not an angel. I don't trust the lot, lefties or righties; innies or outies, and that includes her and her husband and the rest of the presidental hopefuls, righties and lefties.

At least with Clinton we will have a lot of entertainment. That will, no doubt, be furtile enough new ground to bring president bashing to a whole new and as yet undiscovered level!

As Billy Clinton said... "elect me and you get two for the price of one"; guess that still holds.

Shoot she might get to serve two terms with Billy running amock in the white house for 8 more years.

Is it legal for Billy to serve as her Vice-President?

TIGERESS

I don't know what polls you are seeing, but the latest one I saw showed Obama pretty close to equal with her, and another showed him in the lead.

She won't be president. I am confident of that.

AKIron · « **Reply #133 on:** November 22, 2007, 09:19:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Dago
I don't know what polls you are seeing, but the latest one I saw showed Obama pretty close to equal with her, and another showed him in the lead.

She won't be president. I am confident of that.

I said the same about Bill in 1992. I'm afraid to say it again. I did see an amusing bumper sticker a couple of days ago. Took me a few seconds to get it. Said:

Reelect Gore 2008

As I passed them on the highway I gave 'em a little "rub".

Tigeress · « **Reply #134 on:** November 23, 2007, 09:10:22 AM »

It looks to me as though Clinton is not wanting to be a full blown Left-Winger; rather a middle of the road Moderate, i.e. a Centerist.

TIGERESS

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THE END GAME
Clinton Hits Rough Patch As Iowa Showdown Nears
Rivals Strike From Left As She Courts Center;

'Responsibility Gene'
By JACKIE CALMES
November 23, 2007; Page A1

BALLSTON, Va. -- As Hillary Clinton huddled with advisers not long ago, she was pressed to stake a position popular with the party's left-leaning voters on one issue. But the presidential front-runner resisted. It wasn't her position.

"If I do what you all want me to do, I'll look great for the next couple months," she said, according to one insider's account. "But what if I'm the nominee? I'll be ripped apart by the Republicans. And what if I'm the president? My hands will be tied."

The New York senator's response captured the tension at the core of her 10-month-old presidential bid, and helps illuminate why she has hit a dangerously bumpy stretch as January's first nominating votes near. Sen. Clinton actually is running two campaigns at once -- courting left-leaning Democrats to get the nomination, but mindful even now of maintaining a sufficiently centrist course to withstand Republican attacks and win election next November.

Beyond that, Sen. Clinton views her campaign as a template for her possible presidency. Having witnessed Bill Clinton's early struggles reconciling campaign promises with governing -- and guided by his private advice now -- she knows first hand that what candidates say now for political points can haunt them as president. Close advisers call this caution her "responsibility gene."