Author Topic: Hillary, your false face is showing (Read 4796 times)

AKIron · « **Reply #135 on:** November 23, 2007, 09:16:35 AM »

She'd be a fool if she didn't. She already has the lefties in her pocket. They aren't likely to switch even for Giuliani. She can only gain by lying about her position.

Shuckins · « **Reply #136 on:** November 23, 2007, 09:20:43 AM »

Tigeress, good points. Bill Clinton's efforts to pass legislation during 1993 pleasing to the more radical elements of the left proved to be disastrous to the democratic party in the Congressional elections of 1994.

The reaction to the Brady Bill, in particular, unseated scores of Democratic congressmen who had voted to support it. Other issues only compounded the defeat.

lazs2 · « **Reply #137 on:** November 23, 2007, 09:28:00 AM »

she can say what she wants but she is an arrogant lefty like none we have ever seen.. she will lose her temper and more and more about her left wing agenda will come out. I can't believe that anyone would be fooled for any length of time.. into thinking there was the slightest chance that she had changed her stripes and had become a "moderate".

Unless they just wanted to fool themselves that is... sorta like us thinking that old rudy has changed and "moderated" his views on gun control... while he is no way near as rabid as hillary... he is no friend to our rights.

lazs

Tigeress · « **Reply #138 on:** November 23, 2007, 09:33:29 AM »

I am just watching... from the shadows... waiting...

In my view, the Republicans better groom a Moderate as well if they want a nominee to have a chance against another Moderate.

Like I said, I don't trust any of them but someone will be elected and from the looks of it, it will be Clinton.

It boils down to choosing the lesser of two evils, once again, in my opinion.

TIGERESS

AKIron · « **Reply #139 on:** November 23, 2007, 09:39:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Tigeress
It boils down to choosing the lesser of two evils, once again, in my opinion.

TIGERESS

Hmmmm, Bill might challenge Hillary for the evilness title but he can't run. That pretty much makes everyone else a lesser evil imo. One thing I find amusing though, and I'm not accusing you of this Tigeress, is when the lefties tell the righties that they better offer a moderate posistion, as if they would even consider supporting anyone not firmly in their socialist camp.

Tigeress · « **Reply #140 on:** November 23, 2007, 09:43:50 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Hmmmm, Bill might challenge Hillary for the evilness title but he can't run. That pretty much makes everyone else a lesser evil imo. One thing I find amusing though, and I'm not accusing you of this Tigeress, is when the lefties tell the righties that they better offer a moderate posistion, as if they would even consider supporting anyone not firmly in their socialist camp.

Dear, I am not a lefty nor a righty; I am an honest-to-goodness middle-of-the-roady Moderate... just slightly to the right of center.

If you compiled everything I have ever written on this board you will not find a lefty lurking there!

That is an absolute fact.

The problem, as I see it, is extremism... both left extremism and right extremism.

The majority of We The People are moderates, so I am nothing special in that regard.

What is unusual is an outspoken Moderate!

The left and right hardliners have difficulties with that!

They are used to fighting with each other; not with Moderates.

TIGERESS

AKIron · « **Reply #141 on:** November 23, 2007, 09:46:44 AM »

Nor do I accuse you of being a leftie though your comment reminded me of some of the more vocal lefties insisting that Bush support their socialist agendas even though they wouldn't have dreamed of voting for him.

Tigeress · « **Reply #142 on:** November 23, 2007, 09:52:09 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Nor do I accuse you of being a leftie though your comment reminded me of some of the more vocal lefties insisting that Bush support their socialist agendas even though they wouldn't have dreamed of voting for him.

mmmm... you should have heard me ranting against the hard left during Bill Clinton's two terms. WOW!

It was as vocal as my ranting against the hard-right of the last almost 7 years!

Imma Moderate... who voted for Bush Sr and Jr.

I have a typical Moderate Ala Cart Agenda with balanced flavors of both blue and red... none extreme.

TIGERESS

AKIron · « **Reply #143 on:** November 23, 2007, 10:27:01 AM »

Bill pressed a very liberal agenda while in office and the lefties yucked it up. His only concession to the right imo was in stopping military gays from flaunting their gayness. Of course this spoiled the lefties and they still suffer under the delusion that every president, whether they voted for him or not, must support their progressive agendas. Soon as Hillary takes office her extremism will be revealed. Maybe Mr. Miyagi was right. "Walk left side of road, ok. Walk right side of road, ok. Walk middle of road, get squashed like bug."

midnight Target · « **Reply #144 on:** November 23, 2007, 10:32:57 AM »

I've learned that nothing said in here will ever change anyone's mind, however, some statements, although true will inevitably cause spittle to fly and keyboards to crack.

Clinton was the most fiscally conservative President since Kennedy.

lazs2 · « **Reply #145 on:** November 23, 2007, 10:33:22 AM »

tigress.. you admit that you got fooled by old bill... that you were ranting on his hard left turn... the fact is that he never strayed from his far left agenda... not once.. he only said he did... the left lies about being left because they know America hates them and their ideas.

MT may be the most honest lefty on this board and he is not so much as he pretends... the real lefties here all hide and lie about it.

hillary is worse. she has an abrasive personality instead of smooth like bill but she has more guile and she may be smarter and.. I am sure she is far more ruthless and less worried about who gets upset..

She will say anything but... just like her husband.. she will go hard left the second she gets the power.. and... she won't be so wishy washy about the polls.. she is a true "the end justifies the means" liberal lefty.

lazs

Tigeress · « **Reply #146 on:** November 23, 2007, 11:12:13 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Bill pressed a very liberal agenda while in office and the lefties yucked it up. His only concession to the right imo was in stopping military gays from flaunting their gayness. Of course this spoiled the lefties and they still suffer under the delusion that every president, whether they voted for him or not, must support their progressive agendas. Soon as Hillary takes office her extremism will be revealed. Maybe Mr. Miyagi was right. "Walk left side of road, ok. Walk right side of road, ok. Walk middle of road, get squashed like bug."

Didn't Bill support the DOM (Defense of Marriage)?

Mr. Miyagi was cool! If car coming; no be there!

Yes, Moderates agree with certian aspects of both right and left and disagree with certian aspects of both right and left.

We tend to get hammered by both hard-lefties and hard-righties!

That's Ok!

I remember Rush L. saying "Pick a damn side! Stand for something!"
It fustrated him to no end to contend with Moderates!

He would much rather have a hard-left opponent he could put a "one size fits all" label on.

But the majority of We The People are Moderates, not hardliners ...Not Communists and not Fascists.

TIGERESS

Tigeress · « **Reply #147 on:** November 23, 2007, 11:22:55 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
tigress.. you admit that you got fooled by old bill... that you were ranting on his hard left turn... the fact is that he never strayed from his far left agenda... not once.. he only said he did... the left lies about being left because they know America hates them and their ideas.

MT may be the most honest lefty on this board and he is not so much as he pretends... the real lefties here all hide and lie about it.

hillary is worse. she has an abrasive personality instead of smooth like bill but she has more guile and she may be smarter and.. I am sure she is far more ruthless and less worried about who gets upset..

She will say anything but... just like her husband.. she will go hard left the second she gets the power.. and... she won't be so wishy washy about the polls.. she is a true "the end justifies the means" liberal lefty.

lazs

I never trusted "Slick Willie" for a moment.
But he played a good saxophone!

'Member! I don't trust politicians at all! None of them!

Hillary aggravates me.

I don't like her personality and the fact she didn't throw that cheating husband of her's out on his ear told me loads about her political agenda.

Plus there are serious rumors she was as much a philanderer as Bill was... but with the same sex.

I am waiting for the Republican Party to spring evidence to that end... but it probably won’t work 'cause she stayed married to Bill.

Best they can do is paint her as a bi-sexual and we all know most men think women who are Bi are ok with them and their three-way fantasies.

TIGERESS

PS: Actually Lazs, I have paid particular attention to your writings as a whole. From what I have seen, you are a right-wing moderate.

From everything I have gathered, you dislike Communism and Fascism as much as I do.

You are just more to the right of center than I am. I am somewhat less concerned about a bit of common-sense socialism here and there, that's the main difference I see.

Shamus · « **Reply #148 on:** November 23, 2007, 02:41:58 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target

Clinton was the most fiscally conservative President since Kennedy.

Thats the part that blows my mind to this day.

I goofed and voted for GW the first time, about two years into his first term I said to myself "my god we are getting the worst of both words with this guy"

I would compare his fiscal policies to a drunken sailors, but I don't want to disparage drunken sailors.

shamus

AKIron · « **Reply #149 on:** November 23, 2007, 02:45:02 PM »

Saving money by gutting the military may be fiscally conservative provided you don't then turn around feed at least significant amounts of that money back into social programs which Clinton most definitely did.