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Offline DREDIOCK

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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2007, 08:09:35 AM »
Given the length of the weapon.

Other then pure aesthetics.
What is the point in having a bayonet on a weapon, that short?

Certainly is a nice looking weapon though
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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2007, 08:15:23 AM »
Finally.. a girl sized weapon that seriously kicks butts! :aok



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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2007, 08:38:16 AM »
Interesting design. Would be nice to try it.

I got an invitation to come try our newest assault rifle (H&K 416) in the spring and im looking forward to that, but this one would be even more interesting to test :)

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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2007, 09:03:37 AM »
It looks very impressive. However I'd hate to have to clean it after a long day at the range. All those nooks and crannies!

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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2007, 09:07:38 AM »
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It looks very impressive. However I'd hate to have to clean it after a long day at the range. All those nooks and crannies!


This gets overlooked too often by designers, doesn't it? :lol

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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2007, 09:11:01 AM »
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It looks very impressive. However I'd hate to have to clean it after a long day at the range. All those nooks and crannies!


Not to mention what a day at the range can do to your nails.

I notice her nails looked well maintained as does her weapon! :aok

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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2007, 09:14:32 AM »
Trying to envision how good it would be as a club in close quarters fighting...

Bayonet stab!
Butt strike!
Butt smash!

repeat until arms fall off

Smack someone with the butt and it looks like you might bend and jam the magazine in the gun.  I don't know if that's worse than the older M-16s which would (I've heard) shatter if you whacked someone with it, but it's something you'd have to think about in close quarters fighting.

They put a bayonet on the thing so you know they thought at least a little bit about how to use it as a combination sword/spear/club, but I do wonder how the magazine and receiver will handle the abuse.  Using your rifle as a club a few times shouldn't destroy the gun.  IMHO.
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2007, 08:24:32 PM »
Might get distracted by all that brass spewing out of your cheek.  Or into it for lefties.
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2007, 11:35:03 PM »
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Trying to envision how good it would be as a club in close quarters fighting...

Bayonet stab!
Butt strike!
Butt smash!

repeat until arms fall off

Smack someone with the butt and it looks like you might bend and jam the magazine in the gun.  I don't know if that's worse than the older M-16s which would (I've heard) shatter if you whacked someone with it, but it's something you'd have to think about in close quarters fighting.

They put a bayonet on the thing so you know they thought at least a little bit about how to use it as a combination sword/spear/club, but I do wonder how the magazine and receiver will handle the abuse.  Using your rifle as a club a few times shouldn't destroy the gun.  IMHO.


The butt stocks on the m16a1s and a2s are very solid, I'm not sure what they're made out of but it's very durable and has some heft. The old handguards on the other hand...

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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2007, 11:42:01 PM »
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What is the point in having a bayonet on a weapon, that short?
Bayonets never need reloading.  ;)  Most likely, you'll never need it, but the one time you do, you'll regret it not being there.  In the meantime, it can be used for all the useful things a good knife is needed for.
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« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2007, 11:45:18 PM »
Wiki is good.

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The new buttstock is ten times stronger than the original due to advances in polymer technology since the early 1960s. Original M16 stocks were made from fiberglass-impregnated resin; current stocks are engineered from DuPont Zytel glass-filled thermoset polymers.


I speculate that the new stocks were introduced with the a1.

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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2007, 03:04:39 AM »
i could be wrong but i thought the polymer stocks first appeared with the round handguard a2's. whatever.. zytel polymar is a tough plastic and was a big improvment over the brittle crack prone fibreglass stocks.

besides the earlier ar/m16's the original ar18/180 (dunno about the latter "b" version) wasn't exactly robust and reliable either. it was also saddled with weak glass handguards but i don't think that that was any real detraction to it since imo the rifle had much bigger problems.

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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2007, 03:41:10 AM »
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It looks very impressive. However I'd hate to have to clean it after a long day at the range. All those nooks and crannies!


You talking about the girl or the gun now?
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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2007, 04:02:55 AM »
^ good one lol

anyways viking missed the obvious.. females + stuff that needs cleaning = problem solved ;)

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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2007, 05:43:14 AM »
Blued steel and walnut...

Any gunstock formed of polymers and injection molding is ugly as sin.

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