Originally posted by Bingolong
Can you please tell me the laws/rights at that time? before 1776. Or were there any? and if they were who's law were they? Please!
Law?
Rights?
OK lets do this ............
First: there were NO LAWS, or RIGHTS, but those made by the stronger to RULE over the weaker. Call it Law of the Jungle if you like.
Someone wrote an entire paper on how the first farmers created the first rulers. Seems the farmers stayed in one place. Along comes someone (probably more like a group of someones) that realized a good thing when they saw it (free food that someone else was making) and took advantage.
At first perhaps they offered to PROTECT the farmers for a cut of the profits so to speak? But later , probably because they kept their weapons skills up and weren't exhausted from all that drudge like farm work, they took over. At which point the farmers had now become vassals or perhaps just plan slaves.
Got that?
Now a point I'd like to make here is just because someone, who was stronger, or meaner, or more numerous, or had a tech advantage, created vassals or slaves did NOT remove the basic rights all humans have, or SHOULD have. It just placed a hold upon, or stopped people from enjoying, those rights.
In some ways it perhaps INSURED that some day some where those rights would be REMEMBERED and HONORED!
The Founders did NOT create RIGHTS they simply looked at societies in the past, were well read and educated for their time (IIRC it's referred to as a Classic Education and is still available in many higher learning institutions), and thought upon such things.
BTW you might wanna read up on the individuals I named in an earlier post. as that is where many of the ideas the Founders used came from.
There we go............
So after watching the King and his minions abuse fellow Americans in not so nice ways, and listening to an ARMED populace that was probably STILL angry. They came up with a Bill of Rights.
To them, and the people, these were Rights that ALWAYS existed!
Rights that were for EVERYONE!
Rights that were theres because they, the PEOPLE, EXISTED!
Enumerating those Rights had a purpose.
After looking at history and reading how so many societies failed they thought upon what they hoped would be a way to preserve those Rights.
SOOOOO ..............
They SPELLED them out so in the future someone wanting to be King or Dictator or some such would find it difficult to take those rights away.
So if you still have a problem with all this I repeat............
First: there were NO LAWS, or RIGHTS, but those made by the stronger to RULE over the weaker. Call it Law of the Jungle if you like.
Now a point I'd like to make here is just because someone, who was stronger, or meaner, or more numerous, or had a tech advantage, created vassals or slaves did NOT remove the basic rights all humans have, or SHOULD have. It just placed a hold upon, or stopped people from enjoying, those rights.
Does this work for you?
