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Offline Saxman

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« on: November 20, 2007, 05:55:57 PM »
Saw this movie Sunday, and I have to say unless you're seeing it in 3D, wait for it on DVD. It wasn't that it's a BAD movie, it was ok, it's just not worth the price.

There's something seriously frelled about a movie based on the oldest known written literature in the English language, when the guy who MADE the thing says there's nothing in the original poem that interested him in the FIRST place.

Honestly, I think it shows.
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 05:57:09 PM »
Thanks for the review.  Think I'll just keep watching "The 13th Warrior".
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 06:07:26 PM »
I thought it was pretty good but Sax is right, unless you're going to watch it in 3D, don't bother.

Though, I hope people don't think this movie is in anyway accurate to the original sagas, which it isn't.  It's more picking and choosing from the different sagas and placing them here and there in the movie without any continuity of the original story.

The one thing that I really didn't like, though it did provide some chuckles was naked Beowulf in 3D.  However, seeing Angelina in 3D was nice, it was like she was sitting on my lap .


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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 06:18:47 PM »
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Thanks for the review.  Think I'll just keep watching "The 13th Warrior".


The book was so much better than the movie.  Chriton did a great job with "The Eaters of the Dead" the movie was... eh in comparison.

Speaking of Chriton....  i think that this thread is the first time i have seen "frell" used in  normal conversation....

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 06:25:30 PM »
Yeah, I've read the book too.  You know Crichton took over the film and reshot some scenes as director and producer?  I still like them both though.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007, 06:36:44 PM »
I have to agree with Diablo.  Both are pretty enjoyable, neither really better than the other.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 07:17:30 PM »
Ack-Ack,

The original Beowulf poem consisted of the same three "adventures" that the film portrayed: Grendel, his Mother, and the Dragon. However the major difference, and it's been a LONG time since I've read any of the original poem, (I MUST pick it up sometime. I've been waiting for Tolkien's translation, but until the son kicks it and someone else takes over the family company it may never be published) is that the poem relies VERY heavily on some of the background legends/history of the Danes and Germanic peoples to establish its setting and world (specifically mention of some of the historical or semi-legendary kings, places and events of the 5th/6th centuries).

Really you can sort of look at it like, Beowulf is to Danish and Germanic legend what The Lord of the Rings is to the Silmarillion: One large tale set against the backdrop of a deeper mythology (that Tolkien was enamored by the poem, and one of the first to argue for Beowulf's LITERARY, rather than historical, merits has to play into this somehow). This IS sort of a drawback since contemporary audiences wouldn't understand the references like someone versed in that culture would (like, say, a mead hall in Saxon England) but I think Jackson's LotR illustrated that you CAN make these allusions without sacrificing accessibility.

This was a major failing of the film, because a LOT of that mythology was disregarded for cartoonish Hollywood spectacle, and much of the richness of the original legend was lost, which is really a shame. They had the opportunity to show so much of how deep and textured native Western European mythology was before Christianity displaced it, and gave it all up for cheap thrills and bawdy humor.

IMO, the best and most enjoyable part of the movie was the battle against Grendel, which if I'm remembering the poem correctly is the one part that's truly faithful to the epic (that should be a lesson, there. If it's not broke don't "fix" it). I also loved that Grendel's dialog was entirely in Old English. It's so far removed from Modern English as to be another language altogether, but at the same time is JUST familiar enough that you can almost understand some of what he says. There's something that's just hauntingly beautiful about hearing it spoken, and I wish they'd have used more of it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 07:50:07 PM »
See Rule #5
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 07:55:47 PM »
lawlz

Arlo, how the **** are ya?
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 07:57:07 PM »
Hmmmm. Didn't used to be a complex question.

I'll say "just ducky."

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2007, 08:06:13 PM »
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Saw this movie Sunday, and I have to say unless you're seeing it in 3D, wait for it on DVD. It wasn't that it's a BAD movie, it was ok, it's just not worth the price.

There's something seriously frelled about a movie based on the oldest known written literature in the English language, when the guy who MADE the thing says there's nothing in the original poem that interested him in the FIRST place.

Honestly, I think it shows.


I'm curious what method did they use for the 3d (shutter glasses/anaglyph/etc)?

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2007, 09:02:19 PM »
Sig,

Go hijack someone else's thread. That crap doesn't belong here.

Vulcan,

It's whatever technique RealD uses. I can't tell you more than that.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 09:26:48 PM »
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Thanks for the review.  Think I'll just keep watching "The 13th Warrior".
They ruined the 13 Warrior too
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 09:28:41 PM »

I do service calls there a lot--cool place, lotta history
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 09:30:47 PM »
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They ruined the 13 Warrior too


You mean the author of the book ruined the movie?
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