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Offline Rich46yo

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« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2007, 07:23:22 PM »
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I only read the first post in this thread... didnt bother to read the rest.


I picture what rich says in my mind. The lone skill-less dweeb who must ram bombers to get kills.

Let see.. fighter aircraft flying directly into the bomber. Bomber has guns all around it.

So in essence, the fighter is flying at the bomber's guns.

Its a HO situation but the guy in the fighter has to ram you to kill you.

Logic then, dictates Rich's buff gun aiming skills suck worse than the fighter plane's gunnery skills.




fascinating...


                            Name a time and place and we'll meet. I'll be in my 30 eny Japmobiles and you can be in any non-perk fighter. Oh, and btw, you suck!:D Whats your game name and who do you fly for. In KI-67s I'll go one on one with anyone in this game.

                           Thanks to the guys who made a contribution to the thread. I wrote all this 4 times but screen redraws preventing me posting. Anyway Im going to bow out of this now that some of the Mommies boys are chipping in. Happy Thanksgiving.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2007, 07:26:21 PM by Rich46yo »
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« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2007, 10:57:28 AM »
I can't tell you how many times I get "XXXX has collided with you", yet the collidER most always gets the kill after colliding into me.

Makes no sense.

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« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2007, 11:14:29 AM »
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I can't tell you how many times I get "XXXX has collided with you", yet the collidER most always gets the kill after colliding into me.

Makes no sense.

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« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2007, 11:15:46 AM »
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I can't tell you how many times I get "XXXX has collided with you", yet the collidER most always gets the kill after colliding into me.


If there is no "you have collided", but only a "XXX has collided with you" and yet you die, you simply have been shot down.
Many collisions like this occur when the attacker is getting greedy and is flying too close while shooting at you.
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« Reply #64 on: November 23, 2007, 03:59:07 PM »
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Originally posted by Tac
I only read the first post in this thread... didnt bother to read the rest.


I picture what rich says in my mind. The lone skill-less dweeb who must ram bombers to get kills.

Let see.. fighter aircraft flying directly into the bomber. Bomber has guns all around it.

So in essence, the fighter is flying at the bomber's guns.

Its a HO situation but the guy in the fighter has to ram you to kill you.

Logic then, dictates Rich's buff gun aiming skills suck worse than the fighter plane's gunnery skills.




fascinating...


                        Tac Im still waiting for you to give up your game name and give a time and place for us to meet in the air?
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« Reply #65 on: November 23, 2007, 05:07:53 PM »
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Name a time and place and we'll meet. I'll be in my 30 eny Japmobiles and you can be in any non-perk fighter.  


I'd take that bet in my lowly 51D. Not for the sake of any chest thumping to the winner though, I merely enjoy a challenge.

Loser posts a thread  that the winner is the master?

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« Reply #66 on: November 23, 2007, 06:20:05 PM »
lol rich. Im not a subscriber sorry! Go fly against Ack-Ack or Animal .. they are my padawans.

Besides... I think the point is your buff gun accuracy skills not how well you can fly an a6m2 ;) .

I suggest getting ack-ack in a buff's guns and you attack it with an me262 or something :)
« Last Edit: November 23, 2007, 06:47:27 PM by Tac »

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« Reply #67 on: November 23, 2007, 07:57:43 PM »
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lol rich. Im not a subscriber sorry! Go fly against Ack-Ack or Animal .. they are my padawans.

Besides... I think the point is your buff gun accuracy skills not how well you can fly an a6m2 ;) .

I suggest getting ack-ack in a buff's guns and you attack it with an me262 or something :)


                          Oh I get it. You dont actually play you just come into threads, first off you werent involved in, and post that other players, total strangers that you dont know, have skills that suck?

                       What are you ack acks and animals lawyer now? They arent even involved in the thread.

                          Hoiw old are you Tac? If your over 18 Im going to put you on ignore. BTW, you "really suck".:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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« Reply #68 on: November 23, 2007, 09:20:49 PM »
The way I'm reading these logical explanations is that if your front end detects a collision, you are toast, even if you are flying around minding your own business and some dweeb rams you.
The feeling seems to be that you should be responsible for avoid collisions, even if you are flying level and the guy hits you from behind.
For the life of me then I can't understand why it is fairer that only you should die? Because your front end was more efficient than the other guys?
That's not fair.
Because you didn't take action to move your rear end out of the fighter's way as he zoomed in on you?
That's not fair.
Because the other guy didn't see that his plane was about to give you a propeller enema, so he flew really really close?
Again, not fair.
It seems to me that if two planes collide, two planes die. Always.
Sounds fair to me.
That way if your front end detects, you die. If your front end doesn't detect it, you die.
It doesn't depend on the vagueries of whose detected it first. It encourages everyone to give each other a little room.

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« Reply #69 on: November 23, 2007, 09:24:29 PM »
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The way I'm reading these logical explanations is that if your front end detects a collision, you are toast, even if you are flying around minding your own business and some dweeb rams you.
The feeling seems to be that you should be responsible for avoid collisions, even if you are flying level and the guy hits you from behind.
For the life of me then I can't understand why it is fairer that only you should die? Because your front end was more efficient than the other guys?
That's not fair.
 


You didn't understand collision model at all.

It's not about front end efficiency. Having a fast or slow computer, of a fast or slow connection has nothing to do with collision detection. Nothing.

And yes, YOU are responsible for what's happening on your front end.

And if some dweeb "rams" you = he flies deliberately into your plane on HIS screen, chances are good that only HE will take damage from it.

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It seems to me that if two planes collide, two planes die. Always.
Sounds fair to me.


So? that does sound fair to you?

I can only reprise: You think it's fair if you get a collision when someone is flying 200ft away from you?

'Cause that's gonna happen if "both go down" would be implemented.

Just look at the pics again and keep in mind those two players had quite little lag...
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« Reply #70 on: November 23, 2007, 10:19:13 PM »
I love this guy!!!

He opens a thread with "Explain this to me" and then argues with everyone that explains it to him !!! :aok

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« Reply #71 on: November 24, 2007, 07:02:53 AM »
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I love this guy!!!

He opens a thread with "Explain this to me" and then argues with everyone that explains it to him !!! :aok

He's just looking for more people to put on ignore. That would be just about any one who disagrees or has an ounce of common sense.
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« Reply #72 on: November 24, 2007, 07:06:44 AM »
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The way I'm reading these logical explanations is that if your front end detects a collision, you are toast, even if you are flying around minding your own business and some dweeb rams you.
The feeling seems to be that you should be responsible for avoid collisions, even if you are flying level and the guy hits you from behind.
For the life of me then I can't understand why it is fairer that only you should die? Because your front end was more efficient than the other guys?
That's not fair.
Because you didn't take action to move your rear end out of the fighter's way as he zoomed in on you?
That's not fair.
Because the other guy didn't see that his plane was about to give you a propeller enema, so he flew really really close?
Again, not fair.
It seems to me that if two planes collide, two planes die. Always.
Sounds fair to me.
That way if your front end detects, you die. If your front end doesn't detect it, you die.
It doesn't depend on the vagueries of whose detected it first. It encourages everyone to give each other a little room.



sooo... you want to die when the top picture happens to you?

:huh