Shermans and there bull

[Cmustard]

Hello,
I would like to bring up the sherman again! The sherman only has a low perk value of about 5 points and the tigr about 30.I was rolling onto a vbase with me and some squadies . It just so happend that i was in a tigr at the time rolling on it when i see a sherman and he pops me in 1 hit. This sherman needs to have a highperk value just like the tiger or hitech needs to fix this bull ****. Nothing at all could kill a tiger intell i think around 43 or 44 but up intell thing nothing could take it out and nothing could ever take it out 1 hit from the front amor! There was only one way to kill the basterds which was to get um in the back. I get nailed from the front and side amor 1 hit by shermans! Shermans are green ,very slim ,and very hard to see in trees+ can 1 hit a tiger but yet still have a low perk value. This neeeds to get fixed in preference because it is incorrect . Shermans need to be high perked  just like the tiger because of all these reasons. There is nothing diffrent from bombing a tigr or a sherman you drop a bomb on either of them they are dead. I want this fixed



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[Lusche]

Originally posted by Cmustard
Hello,
I would like to bring up the sherman again! The sherman only has a low perk value of about 5 points and the tigr about 30

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 This sherman needs to have a highperk value just like the tiger or hitech needs to fix this bull ****.

No because

A) At long ranges Tiger can resist Firefly's shells much better than other way round. Tiger has still considerable better  K/D vs Sherman Firefly. You can check such things yourself (and should really do it before posting)

B) The Tiger is MUCH more resistant to air attacks, while Sherman dies almost as easy as a Panzer IV to  bombs.



Nothing at all could kill a tiger intell i think around 43 or 44

 That's not true


but up intell thing nothing could take it out and nothing could ever take it out 1 hit from the front amor! There was only one way to kill the basterds which was to get um in the back. I get nailed from the front and side amor 1 hit by shermans!

You do not seem to understand the difference between a ordinary Sherman, and the British Firefly version we do have in game.

While one can surely argue about exact perk levels, there is no reason to give both tanks same perk cost.

And sureley there isn't anything to "fix" about the Sherman Firelfy cannon (see above)

I would REALLY recommend doing some research if you have an issue with anything in this game again. This is the second time you made look yourself... hmmm.. let's say it openly: not very smart

Golden rule: First think, second search, third read.
Then post.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Cmustard
Hello,
I would like to bring up the sherman again! The sherman only has a low perk value of about 5 points and the tigr about 30.I was rolling onto a vbase with me and some squadies . It just so happend that i was in a tigr at the time rolling on it when i see a sherman and he pops me in 1 hit. This sherman needs to have a highperk value just like the tiger or hitech needs to fix this bull ****. Nothing at all could kill a tiger intell i think around 43 or 44 but up intell thing nothing could take it out and nothing could ever take it out 1 hit from the front amor! There was only one way to kill the basterds which was to get um in the back. I get nailed from the front and side amor 1 hit by shermans! Shermans are green ,very slim ,and very hard to see in trees+ can 1 hit a tiger but yet still have a low perk value. This neeeds to get fixed in preference because it is incorrect . Shermans need to be high perked  just like the tiger because of all these reasons. There is nothing diffrent from bombing a tigr or a sherman you drop a bomb on either of them they are dead. I want this fixed

Afraid of Shermans? I think mustard's problem is that he's yellow!

This Sherman has is armed with the British 17 pounder, damn near as good as the 88mm. It will dispatch a Tiger I without undue drama...

My regards,

Widewing

[Angus]

Hehe, you just got owned by a weaker tank with an insanely good AP gun.
Chill it a bit.
And being close, a Panzer will also kill a Tiger. Also a T-34. Both are better armed than a Sherman, but the Shermie has a VERY good gun.
HTC's perks there seem fair to me.

[Lye-El]

A lot of the people playing think that the Sherman in Aces High is the standard issue Sherman. (30000 made?) It isn't. It's a British modification with a BIG GUN instead of the 75mm.

They perhaps read a little history. Sherman=American so think the Firefly is weak gunned American tank. The uninformed Tiger getting killed thinks it should be harder. The uninformed Sherman driver killing a Tiger thinks the American tank wasn't so bad.

[Guppy35]

Sherman Firefly-17 Pounder Cannon.

Think Michael Wittmann, Tiger Ace.

One Firefly Gunner got him with one shot as well as 3 others.  5 shots, 4 Tigers down in one engagement.

[morfiend]

Originally posted by Widewing
Afraid of Shermans? I think mustard's problem is that he's yellow!


My regards,

Widewing

[john9001]

the British firefly is also up-armored.

[AquaShrimp]

My god, what language is the original post written in?

[humble]

Originally posted by john9001
the British firefly is also up-armored.

No its not.

The firefly was a conversion of 4 different sherman types with most on the original M4 composite or welded hulls. The turret had an 89mm front facing which is the same as the later models with the long barreled 76mm m1a1 gun.

The original sherman suffered from a low velocity guntube and high profile but was reasonably well armored. The firefly was sigificantly upgunned...but nor up armored. The US sherman with the 76mm M1A1 tube was also significantly upgunned from the "stock" low velocity 75mm.

[E25280]

Originally posted by AquaShrimp
My god, what language is the original post written in?

He answered your question . . .

Originally posted by Cmustard
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[Spikes]

Well, it is better to have it low perked than no perked.

[chrish483]

i dont see where any of the tanks are different  or more long lasting when it comes to a spawn point thats camped and were all shooting at each other and killing each other,  2 or 3 good shots will kill any tank,  with any luck and close range 1 shot will kill any tank,  theres no advantige in a GV battle but hiding and for one being able to hit at a LONG DISTANCE.  ive hit a tank at at 20 deg on my scale  20 times and bounced off.   others ive smoked ,     no tank is realy better then the others,  a tiger can be takin out in one shot from a panzer  ive done it so theres no advantage from sing a tiger over a panzer.

i dont like the sherman its slow moving,  afective on its targets close range.

T 34 is faster moving,  no pintal gun,  i dont like the way the zoom responds to the main gun,  as to the panzer

tigers are ok but i think your paying for a panzer in terms of inderment,  tigers dont domanate the field by any means in AH2

if we have to buy something with the points it should be on faster firing crews for the tanks,  id spend a 100 perks on a faster loader in a tank any time.

[kennyhayes]

heres a few charts on armor penatration
http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger1-02.htm

[kennyhayes]

this is also cool little video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBp4eWqXfno