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« on: November 27, 2007, 02:03:48 AM »
Here's a teaser:

All who labor there know if they do not perform, the penalties are real: loss of jobs, income, prestige. In the 82nd, incompetence can mean dead comrades or your own death. They are one-for-all and all-for-one people. They are exclusive, not inclusive. They reject racial, ethnic and gender quotas and affirmative action. To the 82nd and the Patriots, there are places women simply do not belong.

Don't cheat yourself and not take 4 mins and read the whole thing.  Ton's off good stuff for discussion.  Such a breath of fresh air!


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/11/democratism_fails_bush.html

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 10:29:28 AM »
Im not a Buchanan fan but he summed up Katrina quite nicely.

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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 11:41:54 AM »
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Here's a teaser:

All who labor there know if they do not perform, the penalties are real: loss of jobs, income, prestige. In the 82nd, incompetence can mean dead comrades or your own death. They are one-for-all and all-for-one people. They are exclusive, not inclusive. They reject racial, ethnic and gender quotas and affirmative action. To the 82nd and the Patriots, there are places women simply do not belong.

Don't cheat yourself and not take 4 mins and read the whole thing.  Ton's off good stuff for discussion.  Such a breath of fresh air!


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/11/democratism_fails_bush.html


I would tend to agree that the New England Patriot Football Team is no place for a woman and I doubt many women would qualify for the 82nd and those that would would find it such a hostile environment from her "friendlies" as to render it an organization lacking suitability for them.

I would also assert that most men would not cut the mustard within the New England Patriot Football Team nor the 82nd.

Both of these organizations are very exclusive for a reason... the physical bar is extremely high.

IMV, Patrick Buchanan is one percentage point removed from a full blown Fascist but then he has no real governmental responsibilities... rather he is a self-appointed armchair political quarterback like the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

Both these men learned the hard way, their individual extreme idologies are not in step with mainstream America.

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 12:12:43 PM »
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Both these men learned the hard way, their individual extreme idologies are not in step with mainstream America.
 


....like hanging out on a limb do ya? :rofl
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 12:32:36 PM »
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I would tend to agree that the New England Patriot Football Team is no place for a woman and I doubt many women would qualify for the 82nd and those that would would find it such a hostile environment from her "friendlies" as to render it an organization lacking suitability for them.

I would also assert that most men would not cut the mustard within the New England Patriot Football Team nor the 82nd.

Both of these organizations are very exclusive for a reason... the physical bar is extremely high.

IMV, Patrick Buchanan is one percentage point removed from a full blown Fascist but then he has no real governmental responsibilities... rather he is a self-appointed armchair political quarterback like the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

Both these men learned the hard way, their individual extreme idologies are not in step with mainstream America.

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Not to argue with you, but fascist doesn't mean what you think it means.  The word you probably mean to use is "Reactionary."  Fascism is actually not on the "Communist-Liberal-Moderate-Conservative-Reactionary" scale.  It's removed from political ideals, but is rather a method of government and gaining power.
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 01:22:59 PM »
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Not to argue with you, but fascist doesn't mean what you think it means.  The word you probably mean to use is "Reactionary."  Fascism is actually not on the "Communist-Liberal-Moderate-Conservative-Reactionary" scale.  It's removed from political ideals, but is rather a method of government and gaining power.


Happy to talk about it with you Sailor. Nice subject to investigate.

What do you think I think Fascism means?

This??? :rofl


And this?? :rofl


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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2007, 01:24:03 PM »
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....like hanging out on a limb do ya? :rofl


Nice breeze out here! :rofl

When I said learned... it was in context of both of their individual presidental aspirations which met an ill-fate.

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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2007, 01:47:56 PM »
Lets see what Wiki says...

from --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

"Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the interests of the state. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, racial, religious attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7]

Some of the governments and parties most often considered to have been fascist include Fascist Italy under Mussolini, Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler, Spain's Falange, Portugal's New State, Hungary's Arrow Cross Party, and Romania's Iron Guard. Some authors reject broad usage of the term or exclude certain of these parties and regimes.[8] Following the defeat of the Axis powers in World War II, there have been few self-proclaimed fascist groups and individuals. In contemporary political discourse, fascist has become a slur, used by adherents of some ideologies to describe their opponents.

Fascism attracted political support from diverse sectors of the population. In countries such as Romania and Hungary, fascism had a strong base of support among the working classes and extremely poor peasants. Other supporters have included representatives of big business, farmers, landowners, disaffected World War I veterans, small business owners, nationalists, reactionaries and extreme conservatives. Intellectuals who have supported fascism include: Giovanni Gentile (who ghostwrote the Doctrine of Fascism), Gabriele D'Annunzio, Curzio Malaparte, Filippo Tommaso Marinetti, Carl Schmitt and Martin Heidegger."



Fascism, sexuality, and gender roles
Further information: Gender role
There has been a revival of interest in recent times, among many academic historians, with regard to the so-called "cult of masculinity" that permeated fascism, the attempts to systematically control female sexuality and reproductive behavior for the ends of the State.[citation needed] Italian fascists viewed increasing the birthrate of Italy as a major goal of their regime, with Mussolini launching a program, called the 'Battle For Births', to almost double the country's population. The exclusive role assigned to women within the State was to be mothers and not workers or soldiers;[53] however, Mussolini did not practice what some of his supporters preached. From an early stage, he gave women high positions within Fascism, and in Germany, the leader of one of the major feminist organizations pleaded with Hitler to be incorporated into the Nazi Party as early as 1928.[citation needed] Fascists have generally been opposed to the concept of women's rights per se, preferring the traditions of chivalry to guide male-female relations.

Every woman adores a Fascist,

The boot in the face, the brute

Brute heart of a brute like you.[54]

But Sylvia Plath's angry metaphor may simply be a repetition of the old 'woman as masochist' claim. As this came in a poem about her German father, Plath may have been associating all Germans with fascism [something that was common in Britain until fairly recently].[citation needed]

According to Anson Rabinbach and Jessica Benjamin, "The crucial element of fascism is its explicit sexual language, what Theweleit calls 'the conscious coding' or the 'over-explicitness of the fascist language of symbol.' This fascist symbolization creates a particular kind of psychic economy which places sexuality in the service of destruction. According to this intellectual theory, despite its sexually-charged politics, fascism is an anti-eros, 'the core of all fascist propaganda is a battle against everything that constitutes enjoyment and pleasure'… He shows that in this world of war the repudiation of one's own body, of femininity, becomes a psychic compulsion which associates masculinity with hardness, destruction, and self-denial."[55]



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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2007, 02:49:58 PM »
From --> http://www.americanpolitics.com/090799MacArthur.html

PART I of II

Pat Buchanan:
Hitler Resurrected?
by Jeff Koopersmith and Mac MacArthur

Tuesday, September 7, 1999 --- New York (APJP) -- It's so fitting that the day after Labor Day American Politics Journal launches an all-out frontal assault on Patrick J. Buchanan -- bad joke candidate, potential destroyer of the Reform Party, and a man who makes his fellow Republicans nauseous when he strides into a room.

Pat pretends he's for the working stiff.

And that's true.

...as long as they aren't Black, Jewish, Chinese, Women or Gay.

Put in the simplest terms, Pat Buchanan is the closet thing to an American Nazi.  He's a racist. He's a gay basher. And he's a liar and a moron to boot.

Although the senior management of CNN must have  thought it amusing to have him represent the ultra-right on Crossfire, we don't think it's funny at all that he is now offering himself up as a "Friend of the Working Folk" and exhibiting the gall to offer himself for the presidency of the United States -- when he's unfit to lick the average man's boots.

We will be inserting quotes from Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf juxtaposed with comments made by Buchanan in public -- to show you just how close Hitler's thinking is to Buchanan's.  Oh -- and by the way -- if you read the lengthier Hitler quotes we conclude this article with you will see they are almost a mirror of what has become the Republican ideology of the bigots who now control the Congress -- but not Republicans in general.

Yet if the "good" Repubicans don't rid their midst of these bigots, they will taint themselves with the same odor.

As Jake Tapper of Salon wrote recently, "Pat Buchanan is back... leaving a trail of racist, xenophobic, and anti-Semitic rhetorical dung behind him wherever he goes."

As our readers know, we have on more than one occasion criticized television and newspaper pundits over their lack of scrutiny concerning this lower-than-pond-scum perpetual candidate.  We have called for his removal as a pundit for CNN.  How dare they offer him all that air time -- AND pay him for it?  We have explained to you that Buchanan runs for the presidency for only two reasons: first, he's a megalomaniacal fantasy tripper, and;   second, he needs the money.

That's right.  Buchanan runs so he can live off some idiot's hard-earned campaign dollars while he gallivants around the nation posing as someone capable of being seriously considered a candidate for the highest office in our nation and the most powerful on earth.  And he's taken seriously, all right -- by a handful of the lowest forms of humanity in America.  And it's not only the money he gets from suckers who actually give that weasel campaign cash, but it's also the money he can get later from lunatic television network chiefs and "public affairs" program producers who actually hire him and who fix his salary at higher and higher levels.  "After all," he demands, "I was a presidential candidate!"   And let's not forget his outlandish speaking fees -- which her also jacks up every time he plays this game with your money and time.

Pat Buchanan is a real piece of work -- and his sister Bay is no better, although she loves to make a great deal out of what a good single mother she is.  What she really turns out to be is an enabler for her little brother -- and therefore a racist, neo-fascist swine of a woman as well.

But Pat is not single.  He hangs around with his Pomeranian-lookalike wife... when he has to.

Last year we were at The Breakers in Pam Beach for a couple of months, celebrating theArianna Huff  when we ran into none other than Mr. Pat Buchanan in the hotel's bar where he and the wifey were, of course, ordering a liquid lunch.

We happened to be on the phone with one of our ultra-"conservative" journalist buddies when someone said, "Hey Pat, I've got one of your biggest fans on the phone from New York."  The prig just gave us a look that said "I'll kill you motha!" -- and then actually said "Get outta here!"  Well, we took one look at the Pomeranian -- who was now grimacing in embarrassment at her uncouth hubby -- and broke out into raucous laughter and catcalling him.  Buchanan was furious -- and we really felt he was going to come over to our table (one yard from his) and punch us out (or try to).  He thought better of it, and went back to ignoring the Pom and sipping his drink.

Pat mysteriously checked out of The Breakers the next day -- and had only checked in the day we met him.  Now what's this guy doing staying at a five-star hotel around the Christmas holidays?  Well, we thought he might be there for the Republican Eagles meeting that was held there last Winter. But no -- he was just social climbing -- much as his bosom buddy Dick Nixon tried to do (to no avail).  Pat knew better than to ask the highest rollers of the GOP to give him a dime. They were already -- en masse -- turning the spigot off for Lamar Alexander, another loser whom they were finished with.  One of them told us that the only thing Lamar accomplished was draining money from other, real candidates -- so you can imagine what they must have thought, and must still think, about Buchanan.

But personal attacks on this troll are a waste of time.  He's the Emperor of Ad Hominem and the first to put everyone but himself down.  Think about it: he even hates his own party and everyone in it.  He whines when they don't conform to his twisted views of America -- and they never do.  He has tantrums when he can't speak first at GOP gatherings and he walks around Washington like he owns it.

But we'll tell you a secret: every time he leaves a restaurant, the entire place starts laughing and everyone begins making jokes about him.

But we digress.  Let's get to the meet of the man.

May we start by quoting him?

Charles Krauthammer, one of the few conservative columnists still respectable enough to speak out about Buchanan's bigotry and hypocrisy, was quoted by Tapper in Salon about Buchanan:  "He tries to be subtle, the comments are not direct appeals to prejudice, which is one of  the reasons he gets away with it." But the subtle appeal, Krauthammer argues, "is very much heard by his audience."

"You knew who Buchanan was talking about, for example," continued Tapper, "during the week of the Iowa straw poll when he blamed the farm crisis on 'New York bankers' and 'the money boys up in New York.'  He didn't say 'money grubbing kikes,' but it was there, lurking in the subtext."  ROFL.
 

But it is not only the old world that he holds in his snare; for a like fate threatens the new world. Jews control the financial forces of America on the stock exchange. Year after year the Jew increases his hold on Labour in a nation of 120 million souls. But a very small section still remains quite independent and is thus the cause of chagrin to the Jew.
Thereby the ideal virtues for all practical purposes had taken a position second to the value of money, for it was clear that once a beginning had been made in this direction, the aristocracy of the sword would in a short time inevitably be overshadowed by the financial aristocracy. Financial operations succeed more easily than battles. It was no longer inviting for the real hero or statesman to be brought into relations with some old bank Jew: the man of true ment could no longer have an interest in the bestowal of cheap decorations; he declined them with thanks.

While England is using all her endeavors to maintain her position in the world, the Jew is organizing his aggressive plans for the conquest of it.

He already sees the present European States as pliant instruments in his hands, whether indirectly through the power of so-called Western Democracy or in the form of a direct domination through Russian Bolshevism. But it is not only the old world that he holds in his snare; for a like fate threatens the new world. Jews control the financial forces of America on the stock exchange. Year after year the Jew increases his hold on Labour in a nation of 120 million souls. But a very small section still remains quite independent and is thus the cause of chagrin to the Jew.

The Jews show consummate skill in manipulating public opinion and using it as an instrument in fighting for their own future.

The great leaders of Jewry are confident that the day is near at hand when the command given in the Old Testament will be carried out and the Jews will devour the other nations of the earth.

-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Chapter 12

Tapper points to  a radio interview in which Buchanan justified his anti-immigration policies by insinuating that the character of Mexicans was generally criminal -- "60,000 of them are in our prisons.... The 'railroad killer' is the kind of person we're going to have more of unless we build up the border patrol," he said.  He didn't say 'dangerous wetback drifters.'"
No, Buchanan didn't need to use terms like "beaners" or "spics."  And it doesn't take a political science degree to know what he was saying -- more like it takes a white sheet or swastika.

It was and it  is Jews who bring the Negroes into the Rhineland, always with the same secret thought and clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily resulting bastardization, throwing it down from its cultural and political height, and himself rising to be its master.
-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Chapter 11

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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2007, 02:50:38 PM »
From --> http://www.americanpolitics.com/090799MacArthur.html

PART II of II

Pat Buchanan:
Hitler Resurrected?
by Jeff Koopersmith and Mac MacArthur

Tuesday, September 7, 1999 --- New York (APJP)

Tapper comments, "He didn't say 'yellow menace' or 'Chinks' or 'they're not like us' -- not in so many words, anyway -- but he seemed dangerously close to the precipice of actually uttering such words."
Tapper is far too kind. We know of several sources that can quote the "affable" Buchanan's racist and filthy jokes by rote.

The best thing Tapper did was turn the spotlight on old Dick Nixon, the man who made Buchanan just another third-rate White House goon.  "Even Richard Nixon found the views of his former speech writer, Buchanan, too extreme on the segregation issue. According to a John Ehrlichman memo referenced in Nicholas Lemann's 'The Promised Land," Nixon characterized Buchanan's views as 'segregation forever.' After Nixon was reelected, Buchanan warned his boss not to 'fritter away his present high support in the nation for an ill-advised governmental effort to forcibly integrate races.' "

Buchanan can be quoted concerning his love of "studmuffin bashing." Tapper writes that "In 1990, Buchanan spewed out another hate-filled sound bite: 'With 80,000 dead of AIDS, 3,000 more buried each month, our promiscuous homosexuals appear literally hell-bent on Satanism and suicide.' "

The most visible results of this mass contamination can, on the one hand, be found in the insane asylums, and on the other, unfortunately, in our children. They in particular are the sad product of the irresistibly spreading contamination of our sexual life; the vices of the parents are revealed in the sicknesses of the children.
-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Chapter 1


Tapper reports that "...his media chums say Buchanan isn't really a bigot, he just plays one on TV."

Buchanan is well known to have defended Nazis and even denied that that Holocaust ever happened.  He once called Hitler "an individual of great courage, a soldier's soldier in the Great War, a leader steeped in the history of Europe, who possessed oratorical powers that could awe even those who despised him."

He declared that "...poor homosexuals -- they have declared war on nature and now nature is exacting its retribution."

Buchanan once called  Russian poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko, one of the most courageous writers of the Soviet era, "the porch-[N word] of the Politburo."  We can only imagine that Yevtushenko earned that accolade from Pat for his poem Babi Yar, which recounts the wholesale slaughter of Jews throughout history by five millennia of anti-Semites.

Pat also showed his customary sensitivity when he called the 1967 Sharpeville Massacre in South Africa, in which 67 blacks were killed, "whites mistreating a couple of blacks."

On the issue of Mexican immigration, Buchanan shouted to his audience of bribed Iowa rednecks, "Jose, we ain't gonna let you in again!"

Today the right of citizenship, as mentioned above, is primarily achieved by birth within the borders of a state. In this, race or nationality play no role whatever. A Negro, who formerly lived in the German protectorates and now has his residence in Germany, gives birth to a German citizen in the person of his child. Likewise every Jewish or Polish, African or Asiatic child can be declared a German citizen without further ado.
I know that people do not like to hear all this; but anything more thoughtless, more hare-brained than our present-day citizenship laws scarcely exists. There is today one state in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the American Union, in which an effort is made to consult reason at least partially. By refusing immigration on principle to elements in poor health, by simply excluding certain races from naturalization, it professes in slow beginnings a view which is peculiar to the folkish state concept.

The whole process of acquiring citizenship takes place not far differently than admission into an automobile club. The man makes his application, it is examined and passed upon, and one day he receives a note informing him that he has become a citizen, and even the form of this is cute and kittenish. The former Zulu Kaffir in question is informed: 'You have hereby become a German!'

-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Chapter 3


And of course Buchanan attacks women. He must be a regular party to be married to.  He said, "Rail as they will against 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism.... The momma bird builds the nest. So it was, so it ever shall be. Ronald Reagan is not responsible for this; God is."

You simply have to laugh at the arrogance and hubris. Could a politician be more ignorant -- or appeal to more ignorant people?

In fairness, it has to be said that there are Republicans who openly vilify Buchanan.  Among them are former RNC chairman Rich Bond and conservative eminence grise William F. Buckley, who wrote, "I find it impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge that what he did and said during the period under examination, the military build-up for the Gulf War, amounted to anti-Semitism," Buckley wrote. "Whatever it was that drove him to say and do it -- most probably an iconoclastic temperament."

Also, we know for a fact that Jim Nicholson, the current RNC chairman, has lit into Buchanan in a particularly severe manner behind closed doors.

Tapper quoted Krauthammer again: " 'The interesting thing is how he can say these things and still be considered a national figure,' Krauthammer says. 'Even the "chopsticks' line. If any other politician made that comment, he would have to spend a week apologizing. It's a real puzzle; I don't understand why he gets away with it.' "

He doesn't get away with it, Charles.  He gets a free ride because the rest of the press basically holds a similar opinion to Pat's.  Have you been watching Mario Cuomo's ex-shoe polisher, the porcine Tim Russert?  Or how about "Cokie" 'You know who' Roberts?  John McLaughlin would probably take Buchanan to bed.  Brit Hume and his smiling, well-coiffed sidekick Tony Snow get high on Buchanan's fumes.

So who's kidding who?

Tapper contacted everyone running for the GOP nomination for his piece on Buchanan -- and couldn't find one of them who would put Buchanan in his place, the toilet of humanity.  To a man, the spokespeople just followed dingbat Reagan's 11th Commandment: Thou shallt not speak ill of another neofacist.

But Tapper relates this snippet about Dan Quayle spokesmoron Jonathan Baron, who "took a different tack, offering a figurative 'Welcome Bigots!' sign on behalf of his boss to Buchanan supporters. 'Even many of his enemies recognize that Pat Buchanan is sincere and passionate and a good person, and Dan Quayle certainly considers Pat Buchanan a friend and an important member of the conservative movement,' Baron said. 'They may not agree on every issue, but they agree on many issues.' "

Dan Quayle is such a hopeless loser that even his wife Marilyn has a higher political IQ.

We want to leave you with some other quotes from Hitler, every one of them to be found in Mein Kampf, written years before he took control of Germany.  See how they strike you -- and whether you've heard them preached in one form or another by the likes of Henry Hyde, Pat Robertson, Kenneth Starr, and the rest of the men and women who have destroyed the Republican Party in such a short time.

What can we say about Buchanan that hasn't already been said?

Just one thing:

Pat, we would all be better off if you left -- or were kicked out of -- the United States for good.  Perhaps you'd fit in in one of the more recidivist neighborhoods in South Africa where you can help the pathetic, defeated Boers try to reconstruct their Fantasyland of Horror for the majority.  They're going to try, you know.  It will be bloody, and pure lily White.  No Jews, either.

You'd like that, wouldn't you?

Not to leave anyone out, during his speech at the Iowa straw poll, he promised that, if he were elected, he'd open up China for U.S. trade -- or else China will have sold its "last pair of chopsticks in any mall in the United States of America."
Right, Pat.  What's really pathetic about that statement is that the Chinese don't know, let alone care, that he made it.

The army trained men for unconditional responsibility at a time when this quality had grown rare and evasion of it was becoming more and more the order of the day, starting with the model prototype of all irresponsibility, the parliament; it trained men in personal courage in an age when cowardice threatened to become a raging disease and the spirit of sacrifice, the willingness to give oneself for the general welfare, was looked on almost as stupidity, and the only man regarded as intelligent was the one who best knew how to indulge and advance his own ego. it was the school that still taught the individual German not to seek the salvation of the nation in lying phrases about an international brotherhood between Negroes, Germans, Chinese, French, etc., but in the force and solidarity of our own nation.
-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Chapter 1
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2007, 03:47:51 PM »
Well this got spun off topic pretty quick

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2007, 03:57:46 PM »
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Well this got spun off topic pretty quick


I was concerned about that... but it's about Pat B. more so than anything else.

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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2007, 04:14:52 PM »
Well we're gonna start calling you Ms Ripsnort since he used to be the king of the cut/paste  :)

Pat B has been thought of as a kook for ages.  He makes the press saying stupid things.  He's the equivalent of the left's Michael Moore.  Maybe they weight the same   :)

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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2007, 06:03:33 PM »
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Well we're gonna start calling you Ms Ripsnort since he used to be the king of the cut/paste  :)

Pat B has been thought of as a kook for ages.  He makes the press saying stupid things.  He's the equivalent of the left's Michael Moore.  Maybe they weight the same   :)


Yes, that was indeed quite a bit. I normally just paste an excerpt; not a two part thesis hahahaha Sorry bout that.

Pat B. and Mike M. are both probably important in the grand scheme of things... in interesting ways. :rofl

Each is an anti-poster boy of each side!

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2007, 07:06:30 PM »
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Lets see what Wiki says...

from --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

"Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the interests of the state. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, racial, religious attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7]

Some of the governments and parties most often considered to have been fascist include Fascist Italy under Mussolini, Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler, Spain's Falange, Portugal's New State, Hungary's Arrow Cross Party, and Romania's Iron Guard. Some authors reject broad usage of the term or exclude certain of these parties and regimes.[8] Following the defeat of the Axis powers in World War II, there have been few self-proclaimed fascist groups and individuals. In contemporary political discourse, fascist has become a slur, used by adherents of some ideologies to describe their opponents.

Fascism attracted political support from diverse sectors of the population. In countries such as Romania and Hungary, fascism had a strong base of support among the working classes and extremely poor peasants. Other supporters have included representatives of big business, farmers, landowners, disaffected World War I veterans, small business owners, nationalists, reactionaries and extreme conservatives. Intellectuals who have supported fascism include: Giovanni Gentile (who ghostwrote the Doctrine of Fascism), Gabriele D'Annunzio, Curzio Malaparte, Filippo Tommaso Marinetti, Carl Schmitt and Martin Heidegger."



Fascism, sexuality, and gender roles
Further information: Gender role
There has been a revival of interest in recent times, among many academic historians, with regard to the so-called "cult of masculinity" that permeated fascism, the attempts to systematically control female sexuality and reproductive behavior for the ends of the State.[citation needed] Italian fascists viewed increasing the birthrate of Italy as a major goal of their regime, with Mussolini launching a program, called the 'Battle For Births', to almost double the country's population. The exclusive role assigned to women within the State was to be mothers and not workers or soldiers;[53] however, Mussolini did not practice what some of his supporters preached. From an early stage, he gave women high positions within Fascism, and in Germany, the leader of one of the major feminist organizations pleaded with Hitler to be incorporated into the Nazi Party as early as 1928.[citation needed] Fascists have generally been opposed to the concept of women's rights per se, preferring the traditions of chivalry to guide male-female relations.

Every woman adores a Fascist,

The boot in the face, the brute

Brute heart of a brute like you.[54]

But Sylvia Plath's angry metaphor may simply be a repetition of the old 'woman as masochist' claim. As this came in a poem about her German father, Plath may have been associating all Germans with fascism [something that was common in Britain until fairly recently].[citation needed]

According to Anson Rabinbach and Jessica Benjamin, "The crucial element of fascism is its explicit sexual language, what Theweleit calls 'the conscious coding' or the 'over-explicitness of the fascist language of symbol.' This fascist symbolization creates a particular kind of psychic economy which places sexuality in the service of destruction. According to this intellectual theory, despite its sexually-charged politics, fascism is an anti-eros, 'the core of all fascist propaganda is a battle against everything that constitutes enjoyment and pleasure'… He shows that in this world of war the repudiation of one's own body, of femininity, becomes a psychic compulsion which associates masculinity with hardness, destruction, and self-denial."[55]



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Oh, wikipedia, the bastion of thruthiness.  Or the stronghold of anti-falsehoodality.  What it fails to mention, is that the largest communist regimes were ALSO fascists.  All of the soviet union was fascist, china was fascist, the communist paradises of central and south america are fascists.


Fascism describes how the government gains power.  It doesn't describe why they are gaining power.
Punishr - N.D.M. Back in the air.
8.) Lasersailor 73 "Will lead the impending revolution from his keyboard"