Author Topic: 2 youths killed in accident with a police car in France... (Read 716 times)

moot · « **Reply #15 on:** November 27, 2007, 08:34:29 PM »

I'll comment later, gotta run.

1K3 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 27, 2007, 08:53:50 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Interesting Boroda but I don't know what you mean when you say you would have a situation 180 degrees from that of France. No rioting?

It dawned on me, perhaps heavy handed dealing with ther rioters?

Maybe that or the majority of the population will protest against the "subcultures".

Fishu · « **Reply #17 on:** November 27, 2007, 10:37:33 PM »

How surprising, it's again the people of middle eastern origin rioting. Apparently this is why they have harsh punishments in the middle east - otherwise they couldn't keep the people from rioting over there.

-tronski- · « **Reply #18 on:** November 27, 2007, 10:48:39 PM »

In 2004 we had the Redfern riots when an Aboriginal teenager was killed trying to escape from pursing Police, and in 2005 the Macquarie Fields riots when 2 teenagers were killed in a stolen car while being pursued by Police...

neither areas are predominantly Muslim - or controlled by dark evil overlords....but both areas are low income, and have relatively high unemployment which seems to breed grudges against police

Tronsky

DiabloTX · « **Reply #19 on:** November 28, 2007, 05:49:55 AM »

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Originally posted by -tronski-
In 2004 we had the Redfern riots when an Aboriginal teenager was killed trying to escape from pursing Police, and in 2005 the Macquarie Fields riots when 2 teenagers were killed in a stolen car while being pursued by Police...

neither areas are predominantly Muslim - or controlled by dark evil overlords....but both areas are low income, and have relatively high unemployment which seems to breed grudges against police

Tronsky

Both times fleeing from the police, eh? Sounds like a welfare state subculture that's used to having it's way. Wow, does that ever sound familiar.

According to what I've read online the 2 boys killed in France HIT the police car, not the other way around. And now the whole "Little North Africa" culture wants the heads of 2 cops.

straffo · « **Reply #20 on:** November 28, 2007, 07:12:17 AM »

The situation is very similar to tronski description except it's not Aboriginal but a mix of different origin.

I think it's likely only pauperised population of young people having a strong attraction for the gang (à la Los Angeles) "myth".

There is as far as I understand no political or religious* agenda behind.

*and no intellectual

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 28, 2007, 11:45:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
How surprising, it's again the people of middle eastern origin rioting. Apparently this is why they have harsh punishments in the middle east - otherwise they couldn't keep the people from rioting over there.

From the way I understand it, it has little to do with the lack of harsh punishments (though that may be a cause). But rather it has to do with the gangs of paris wanting to control and govern themselves under their own set of rules, and not under french law. The death of the two teenagers is nothing more then the spark / excuse they were waiting for to start.

Ouaibe · « **Reply #22 on:** November 28, 2007, 12:26:18 PM »

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But rather it has to do with the gangs of paris wanting to control and govern themselves under their own set of rules, and not under french law. The death of the two teenagers is nothing more then the spark / excuse they were waiting for to start.

For the very first time i can say that i agree with Lasersailor...

Vad · « **Reply #23 on:** November 28, 2007, 01:02:41 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Interesting Boroda but I don't know what you mean when you say you would have a situation 180 degrees from that of France. No rioting?

It dawned on me, perhaps heavy handed dealing with ther rioters?

I hope to be wrong but it wouldn't be just heavy dealing with the rioters. Hundreds of innocent people of this origin will be dead all over the country. Women, children, old men.

Yeager · « **Reply #24 on:** November 28, 2007, 01:30:21 PM »

to protest is one thing, to riot, another. As far as Im concerned: if someone is involved in a riot then that someone deserves whatever law enforcement shoots their way.

Protest? yes. Riot? no.

Boroda · « **Reply #25 on:** November 28, 2007, 01:36:34 PM »

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I hope to be wrong but it wouldn't be just heavy dealing with the rioters. Hundreds of innocent people of this origin will be dead all over the country. Women, children, old men.

I can only hope that it won't happen. "Pogrom" is not a Russian word.

We are quite fed up with ethnic gangs. I don't want Msk to turn into something like Chechnya 1991-94. And I don't want to become an alien in my own city.

So far all attempts to hang recent terror acts on "russian skinheads" fail.