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Offline Tigeress

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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2007, 06:04:52 PM »
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Do not focus on the size or weight of the gun to the exclusion of other factors. A very light gun tends to have more recoil making it hard to shoot. That leads to lack of practice and inability to hit the target. If you are interested I recommend you seek training. Take a CCW class. You don't have to get the ccw permit unless you want it, but take the class and then train further.


What is a CCW class, Mav?

I think I understand what you are saying about weight and size... thing is, a heavy purse is extremely burdensome.

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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2007, 06:22:23 PM »
Tigress,

I have about 800 movies on DVD now, including 50+ cary grant flicks... I collect movies by him, jimmy stewart, kate hepburn, adam sandler... a lot of others
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2007, 07:11:02 PM »
Concealed Carry Weapon.  Take a look at Springfield XDs -- might be one just the size and caliber perfect for your requirements.
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2007, 08:22:10 PM »
I have a pink gun. It is ready to fire in or out of the bush!
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2007, 08:57:21 PM »
I noticed the Pistol in Pink was a Taurus.   So fitting.
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2007, 10:13:52 PM »
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What is a CCW class, Mav?

I think I understand what you are saying about weight and size... thing is, a heavy purse is extremely burdensome.

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As already posted. ccw = carry concealed weapon.

Yep a purse can be heavy, unless you purge the contents. That's an operator function. A very light purse won't do you a bit of good if you won't practice with a nasty recoil light weapon and can't hit the target when needed. Assuming that you were thinking about carrying a weapon to begin with.
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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2007, 05:48:18 AM »
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Tigress,

I have about 800 movies on DVD now, including 50+ cary grant flicks... I collect movies by him, jimmy stewart, kate hepburn, adam sandler... a lot of others


Very Cool!

Cary has sex appeal that is in a class by itself...

Speaking of Kate Hepburn whom I idolize... African Queen. Love that movie. Jimmy Stewart is one of my favs also.

Enjoyed Adam Sandler in 50 First Dates... real sweetie-pie!

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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2007, 06:00:11 AM »
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As already posted. ccw = carry concealed weapon.

Yep a purse can be heavy, unless you purge the contents. That's an operator function. A very light purse won't do you a bit of good if you won't practice with a nasty recoil light weapon and can't hit the target when needed. Assuming that you were thinking about carrying a weapon to begin with.


Oh, Ok... didn't notice ccw had been defined previously, thanks.

I actually don't have any interest in having a gun but have shot some under supervision and although loud it was fun. Got a very nasty shoulder bruise from shooting a 12 gauge shotgun when I was young... that hurt.

Doesn't the size of the bullets affect kick? That shotgun had very big shells and it kicked very hard. The 22 I shot didn't really kick much at all.

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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2007, 08:14:19 AM »
Years ago I said that if they had made the AK47 and ar series of carbines in pink only then there never would have been an "assault rifle" ban.

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« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2007, 11:58:13 AM »
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Oh, Ok... didn't notice ccw had been defined previously, thanks.

I actually don't have any interest in having a gun but have shot some under supervision and although loud it was fun. Got a very nasty shoulder bruise from shooting a 12 gauge shotgun when I was young... that hurt.

Doesn't the size of the bullets affect kick? That shotgun had very big shells and it kicked very hard. The 22 I shot didn't really kick much at all.

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Felt recoil is a factor of several things. Size (weight) of projectile, amount of powder to move the round to a specific velocity and the weight of the gun firing it are some of them. Generally the lighter a gun is, the more recoil you will feel for a given caliber. If you shoot one of the ultra light titanium revolvers in a caliber like .357 it will be very unpleasant. Shooting the same round in a S&W model 28 will be far different as the gun is much heavier and takes up more of the recoil pulse due to that mass.

Picking a gun to carry just because it is light means you are less likely to practice and will be less accurate because shooting it is unpleasant. That is assuming you have a gun of a reasonable caliber and not a very small one to mitigate the recoil function. While any gun is better than no gun when in extremis, having a gun with an effective cartridge is better yet.
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« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2007, 12:06:15 PM »
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Felt recoil is a factor of several things. Size (weight) of projectile, amount of powder to move the round to a specific velocity and the weight of the gun firing it are some of them. Generally the lighter a gun is, the more recoil you will feel for a given caliber. If you shoot one of the ultra light titanium revolvers in a caliber like .357 it will be very unpleasant. Shooting the same round in a S&W model 28 will be far different as the gun is much heavier and takes up more of the recoil pulse due to that mass.

Picking a gun to carry just because it is light means you are less likely to practice and will be less accurate because shooting it is unpleasant. That is assuming you have a gun of a reasonable caliber and not a very small one to mitigate the recoil function. While any gun is better than no gun when in extremis, having a gun with an effective cartridge is better yet.


Ok, makes sense.. would a 32 like that gun in the picture be effective for self-defense? How much kick would that gun have?

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A bit of googling revealed this...

from --> http://www.naaminis.com/32NAA.html





Specifications:

Caliber: .32 NAA
Magazine Capacity: 6+1
Operation: Double Action Only
Material: 17-4 pH stainless steel
Barrel Length: 2.49"
Height: 3.53"
Overall Length: 4.75"
Width: 0.930"
Weight: 18.72 ozs. unloaded
Suggested Retail Price: $449.00
Trigger Pull: 10.0 LBS.

[This Bullet] Produces more velocity, more energy and more stopping power than any conventional jacketed lead hollow point (JHP) 32 ACP, 380 ACP or 380 ACP (+P) with 15% less recoil (Power Factor) than the (+P),

A lot of that is greek to me... but it is sort of sexy looking and not too big.

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« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2007, 02:31:06 PM »
I really don't know anything about the cartridge you pictured above. I tend to believe the least cartridge you should depend on is the 9mm. I'd rather have at least a .40 over that one.

In this regard I tend to agree with Laz. Use the largest caliber you can handle for the job at hand. Having said that, the most critical part of the situation is actually making a good hit with whatever you are using. A good solid center mas hit with a "mouse gun" is better than the fastest miss with a .50 caliber S&W.

If you can't hit you are not going to do well against someone who can. If you cannot disable with a hit you may not do well with anyone who has serious intent to do you harm anyhow.

I'm not an adherent to the idea that velocity is the great deal. If velocity and impact were the big deal the numbers suggest it is a .22-250 would be great for hunting elk. The problem is that the bullet has to penetrate and do damage deeper than the surface.

A medium velocity cartridge that penetrates well will do better than a high speed one that blows up on impact. You can't also count on hollow points to function. They can get plugged up with hair, clothing or whatever and not expand at all, particularly at pistol velocities.
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« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2007, 02:36:45 PM »
I agree with Mav,  I be those 32 NAA rounds are hard to find and not cheap.


There are many small 9MMs that will do the job better.  Even tiny chicks can handle a 9.
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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2007, 02:42:18 PM »
IF... I were ever to have a gun, it would have to be concealable and those guns (9mm ?) the police around here have are really big.

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« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2007, 02:47:12 PM »
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IF... I were ever to have a gun, it would have to be concealable and those guns (9mm ?) the police around here have are really big.

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The size of the gun has very little to do with the size of the round it fires in many cases.


Look up Kahr 9MMs they are nice and small.

The guns police carry are big because they do not need to be small. Most do not carry 9MMs any more from what I have read.
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