Author Topic: Boroda, one more argument for your fight against "democracy" (Read 968 times)

Vad · « **on:** November 28, 2007, 11:25:15 PM »

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Driver with his family gets pulled over. When officer won't point out speed limit sign driver was accused of ignoring, driver refuses to sign ticket. Officer shoots man with taser, lets him fall and cut his head, then arrests him.

As the hero explained to a colleague a few minutes later, Massey [the driver] was "making me nervous as hell" by his insistence on being treated as a reasonable adult, rather than behaving like a timid child. "I was like, nah, we ain't playing this game," Gardner boasted to the second officer by way of justifying the Taser strike.

"Good," gloated the second tax-fed parasite. "Good for you."

Quote from here:
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/27/driver-tasered-for-r.html

Video:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3533816n

Vulcan · « **Reply #1 on:** November 28, 2007, 11:27:36 PM »

bait is stale

/swims away

Vad · « **Reply #2 on:** November 28, 2007, 11:42:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
bait is stale

/swims away

Subject? May be.
Content? Sorry, it's not me.

john9001 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 29, 2007, 08:02:01 AM »

the driver forgot to say "don't tase me bro", so what did you expect?

Yeager · « **Reply #4 on:** November 29, 2007, 08:33:25 AM »

distrust 99% of what you read on the web and throw away the rest.

Shamus · « **Reply #5 on:** November 29, 2007, 09:02:23 AM »

They are going to have to start carrying a second taser, the guys wife was told to get back in the car and she did not immediately comply, she needed punishment, that type of insolence can not be tolerated.

shamus

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 29, 2007, 12:43:29 PM »

Execute the police officer.

john9001 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 29, 2007, 12:47:47 PM »

we need to find more real crime for the police to work on so they don't get bored and bother us citizens.

KONG1 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 29, 2007, 01:05:41 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Execute the police officer.

Too extreme. I'm thinking a Youtube video of him admitting he's a low self esteem looser Barney Fife who became a cop because he enjoys the power over others that he'd never have as a pit boy at the Jiffy Lube...Oh,Yeah and tazer him.

WilldCrd · « **Reply #9 on:** November 29, 2007, 02:20:20 PM »

The news anchor states in the video that the victim posted this video on utube.
my question is " how did the victim get that police car video?"

DieAz · « **Reply #10 on:** November 29, 2007, 04:54:36 PM »

hmmm cop car sitting on side of the road in front of said speed limit sign.
driver notices cop car moves over to prevent accident, watches car. missed seeing sign not far in front of cop car.
it is either entrapment or stupidity on cop's part.

it shows this only once on CBS vid at the very beginning have to watch it close to catch it.

Boroda · « **Reply #11 on:** November 29, 2007, 07:21:33 PM »

If this is "democracy" - I should repeat that I am for totalitarism.

Here refusing to sign a ticket (in fact - a protocol on a violation), or signing it with "Disagree!" and a brief explanation of why and how traffic officer is wrong, is a reason to go to court.

How such cases are solved in courts is another question, but AFAIK it depends on a region. In Moscow we have _unofficial_ instruction for judges to issue as few "not guilty" verdicts as possible. So now we have like less then 2% of "not guilty", while in 1937 it was ~20%, even from "special group of three conferences".

But being tazered for disagreeing with a traffic-police bloodsucker - it's too much even here. You can be stopped just for a routine paper check, you can be sent to an alcohol test (the REAL test is performed in a hospital, blood test), but no silly "yashka" can tazer or beat you.

Theoretically they have a right to open fire at a vehicle that doesn't stop at the request, but I have only heard about Militia firing at cars with armed criminals, plus some anecdotes from funny 1990s, like Militia shooting at a GAZ-21 (Volga made in 1960s), missing, and then - 4 "warriors" getting shot in the head by a driver, a 75-years old veteran who was riding slowly with his spouse. That old guy had an awarded personal TT for his work in State Security in Stalin's times. He brought all 4 bodies to a nearest Militia station and was released - pure self-defense.

Once I was riding with my friends, in a 15-years old VW Passat, driver went 140km/h on Moscow Circular Road, with official speed-limit 100km/h, we got chased by a Militia's Lada model 10, stopped, and an officer who stopped us only checked our papers and had to let us go. Driver didn't see him waving to stop, so Militia had to chase us for like 5km, risking their lives in a Lada at such a speed, and they couldn't accuse us of speeding - no radar. I was with Sadyk and Ksan, someone here may know them.

Neubob · « **Reply #12 on:** November 29, 2007, 07:40:19 PM »

That cop's father should've pulled out.

BlueJ1 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 29, 2007, 08:02:01 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Execute the police officer.

Agreed. And everyone in the county. Also everyone how saw or read of this. Then no problem exists.

GovtFlu · « **Reply #14 on:** November 30, 2007, 05:17:05 AM »

How shocking, the news would showed part of the video...

Driver tells the reporter he knew he hadn't past the 40MPH sign, yet the 1st thing seen on the complete video, is dude passing the 40MPH sign. Dude says he thought he was getting out of the car to look for the sign, uh, no, the officer said in plain English "hop out of the car, turn around and place your hands behind your back"..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IMaMYL_shxc&feature=related

Simple and easy instructions for anyone smarter than a fern to follow, yet Jared decided ignoring the officer and walking away was prudent LMAO... thats called "felony stupid", the last thing you want to do is hand the officer justification to drop you in your tracks.

People can't refuse to sign a promise to appear, ignore simple lawful instructions, then dictate to the police how it's gonna be.. that might work with mall security, but not the gendarme.

On one hand the officer acted accordingly.

On the other... I question his officer safety & tact, or lack there of... trying to hook someone while alone is a recipe for disaster that invites exactly that type of force escalation.

A-lot of people get their nuts in a wad and refuse to sign tickets, happens all the time... having a unit or 2 back-up arrive, with one final explanation that:

They can sign the ticket and go home, or...
Get yanked out, maybe through the sunroof, pepper sprayed, stomped and tasered if need be.. after that humiliation they get booked with the infamous rapist "bubba", and the car gets towed & stored at their expense.

At this point, 99% of the time, they grumble about whatever and sign the ticket.