Ron Paul on North American Union

[john9001]

if that highway goes all the way to canada, i'm for it.

keep them doggies moving, heaah, rawhide.

[bongaroo]

Originally posted by Terror
Boy, thats a pot/kettle remark.  

T

hahhahahahhaha, burned FTW!

GO RON PAUL!

[Dago]

I thought Ron Paul came off as a deluded fool in the debates.

[Tac]

You think?

I believe all the other candidates were simply following the status quo of events where he is proposing a completely different approach and basing his reasoning on facts.. not hopeful promises or assumptions like the other candidates.

[VOR]

If he's deluded, it's in the sense that he's actually trying to change things in the interests of personal freedom and financial security. I can understand why some might call that a crazy idea in this day and age when a successful politician is bought and paid for.

[GovtFlu]

Originally posted by bsdaddict
Rudy Giuliani Benefits From Sale Of U.S. Highways To Foreign Companies

"...Bracewell & Giuliani who was paid very handsome amounts to put together the finance and legal work. In March, Macquarie Bank from Australia bought [Presidential hopeful Rudy] Giuliani's investment division, which had less than 100 people and lost $1.65 million last year. Macquarie paid $100 million for it. Giuliani personally gets $70 million."

...lol... corrupt mf'ers

[bsdaddict]

Originally posted by GovtFlu
...lol... corrupt mf'ers

that about sums (most of) 'em up...

how 'bout a little internet to the rescue?  Let's see, is  Toobin a liar or an idiot?

and here's Glenn Beck on the NAFTA superhighway and the NAU

[lazs2]

Are we talking about a "union" like the your-0-peeans have or...

are we talking about some road that would be cool here?

lazs

[bsdaddict]

watch the vids and read the links, then come up with your own conclusions...

[lazs2]

The conclusion I have come to is that no one has shown that there is any plans for anything but a road.   I have not heard one head of state say it is true.

I have not seen any reliable source that was in one of these meetings with heads of state.

I do not trust the links or vids.    

This may be happening but at this point.. it is nothing but a paranoid rumor.

If it does happen... I bet we get plenty of real warning.

lazs

[bsdaddict]

Lou Dobbs on the NAFTA Superhighway and the NAU

[CHECKERS]

Originally posted by lazs2
The conclusion I have come to is that no one has shown that there is any plans for anything but a road.   I have not heard one head of state say it is true.

I have not seen any reliable source that was in one of these meetings with heads of state.

I do not trust the links or vids.    

This may be happening but at this point.. it is nothing but a paranoid rumor.

If it does happen... I bet we get plenty of real warning.

lazs

 Here have look/see.....( here is at least part of the grand plan as reported in 2006)....  



 Regards ,

 Bob




Here it is

Kanas City /Mexican Rail Road

[bsdaddict]

FACT:  the SPP exists.  (see http://www.spp.gov)

FACT:  the CFR exists (see http://www.cfr.org)

FACT:  the Trans-Texas Corridor exists (see http://www.keeptexasmoving.com)

from http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/2007/nov07/psrnov07.html

Those who seek to understand what's behind the chatter about Bush's Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) as a possible prelude to a North American Union (NAU), similar to the European Union (EU), should read the 35-page White Paper  published recently by the prestigious Hudson Institute called "Negotiating North America: The Security and Prosperity Partnership." This Washington, DC think tank is blunt and detailed in describing where SPP is heading.

Here's how Hudson defines SPP's goal: "The SPP process is the vehicle for the discussion of future arrangements for economic integration to create a single market for goods and services in North America." The key words are "economic integration" (a phrase used again and again) into a North American "single market" (another phrase used repeatedly).

"Integration" with Mexico and Canada is exactly what North American Union means, but there's a big problem with this goal. "We the people" of the United States were never asked if we want to be "integrated" with Mexico and Canada, two countries of enormously different laws, culture, concept of government's role, economic system, and standard of living."

Here's how Hudson describes SPP's process: "The most important feature of the SPP design is that it is neither intended to produce a treaty nor an executive agreement like the NAFTA that would require congressional ratification or the passage of implementing legislation in the United States. The SPP was designed to function within existing administrative authority of the executive branch."

Hudson explains further: "The design of the SPP is innovative, eschewing the more traditional diplomatic and trade negotiation models in favor of talks among civil service professionals and subject matter experts with each government. This design places the negotiation fully within the authority of the executive branch in the United States."

The Hudson White Paper admits the problem that SPP completely lacks "transparency and accountability." Hudson freely admits "the exclusion of Congress from the process"; constituents who contact their Congressmen discover that Members know practically nothing about SPP. Hudson states that, under SPP, one of the U.S. challenges is "managing Congress." Is Congress now to be "managed," either by executive-branch "authority" or by "dozens of regulators, rule makers, and officials working with their counterparts" from Mexico and Canada?

The Hudson White Paper reminds us that the 2005 Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) document called "Buiding a North American Community " bragged that its recommendations are "explicitly linked" to SPP. The CFR document called for establishing a "common perimeter" around North America by 2010.
 
[...]

"Among the people who take SPP seriously are Rep. Virgil Goode (R-VA) who introduced H.Con.Res. 40 opposing a North American Union and a NAFTA Superhighway, similar resolutions introduced into the state legislatures of 14 states, and Rep. Duncan Hunter's (R-CA) amendment to prohibit the use of federal funds for SPP working groups, which passed the House by the remarkable bipartisan vote of 362 to 63 on July 24, 2007."

[Xargos]

The only thing this highway is going to export from the United States is our money and jobs.  Or do you even care about our sovereignty?

[bsdaddict]

and apparently there's plenty in Congress who believe this is more than just conspiracy talk... (and aren't bought and paid for...)

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.con.res.00040:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hc110-40

"H.CON.RES.40
Title: Expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.
Sponsor: Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] (introduced 1/22/2007) Cosponsors (43)
Latest Major Action: 1/23/2007 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Highways and Transit."

As of today, there are 43 cosponsors:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HC00040:@@@P

Among them are three presidential candidates:
Rep. Duncan Hunter [R-CA]
Rep. Ronald Paul [R-TX]
Rep. Thomas Tancredo [R-CO]

Is the Congress wrongly believing in the possibility of "the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System" or the possibility of "a North American Union with Mexico and Canada"?

So, keep your head buried in the sand if that helps you sleep at night...  Just know in ten years or so that you could've spoken up when it still mattered.