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Offline vorticon

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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2007, 12:02:09 PM »
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Actually it is one of the best ... if not the best sci-fi series made. The series focused on the human condition and classic Star Trek morality plays set in the future. DS9 was also very good in this regard.


this is why i've mostly stopped watching Sci-Fi. along with the usually terrible acting.
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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2007, 12:02:09 PM »
I don't think you can include DS9 with TOS and TNG as far as morality. Star Trek and TNG were both very idealistic, "Good guys in white hats." DS9, especially later in the series, was much more realistic in that the characters were highly flawed and made very gray-area decisions (especially Garak, who was one of the most fun to watch. Sisko was also capable of doing some underhanded things that neither Kirk nor Picard would have even considered). However I enjoyed all three shows (until Paramount proceeded to photon torpedo the series' credibility with Voyager, Enterprise, Insurrection, Nemesis and now the "Reimagined" original crew. The guy who played the Doom Guy has NO business cast as McCoy!)

I don't watch the new BSG at all because they ripped the heart and soul out of the original and changed things that had neither need NOR reason to be changed.
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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2007, 12:03:47 PM »
Every show you see on TV, the big screen or stage is about the "human condition". Why? Because it's the only condition we understand. It's our ONLY perspective. Whether you want to call it a morality play or drama is immaterial. The focus is the same from the time stories were first preserved to the present. It's all "exploring the human situation".

Look at whatever you want to watch but the "good guy" is going to win the vast majority of the time and if he / she doesn't, it's because their sacrifice was necessary (no other option left) for the rest of the population to win. If that makes it a morality play for folks, you might as well stay at home.

The only real difference are where the drama is set, future, past, present or some other dimension.
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« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2007, 03:44:34 PM »
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Actually it is one of the best ... if not the best sci-fi series made. The series focused on the human condition and classic Star Trek morality plays set in the future. DS9 was also very good in this regard.


It was SO corny. Everyone so squeaky clean and happy to be around each other.

Not to mention all the screw ups in the story lines. In fact I seem to remember a couple of books written about all the bloopers. It was like watching "Pearl Harbor" in space.
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2007, 03:52:34 PM »
I liked TNG because of the characters, and counselor Troy was hot.

some of the "messages" we a bit too liberal for me, but I think  Patrick Stewart was a good actor. Barclay was a fun character, as was Q. I hated Guynen, and the first doctor they had.

it was kitchy fun to watch, and not it filler in my tv watching.
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2007, 06:09:18 PM »
You hated Beverly Crusher?:huh
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2007, 06:13:51 PM »
dr. crusher....(droooooool)
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2007, 06:30:36 PM »
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You hated Beverly Crusher?:huh
no the curly haired one in the first few episodes before Crusher.
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2007, 06:32:16 PM »
Ya got your timing wrong Crusher was the doctor the first season, and then left the show for a season (when the lady from LA Law became doctor briefly) and then came back.
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2007, 06:33:43 PM »
grande boobesas.

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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2007, 06:35:59 PM »
And to think my biggest  Star Trek question was " how come they don't wear seat belts on the bridge?":confused:  every other attack you see crewmen  falling all over the place getting hurt. :rofl  you would think in the 26th century that would not be a problem.  :)



Can't wait for star trek 11 thats in the works.


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« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2007, 06:40:14 PM »
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Ya got your timing wrong Crusher was the doctor the first season, and then left the show for a season (when the lady from LA Law became doctor briefly) and then came back.
nerd alert.

:lol :aok :p


yeah though that chick... I forgot crusher was there at the begining.
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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2007, 07:18:49 PM »
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This is just plain wrong. Gene Roddenberry deliberately made the show about the human condition set in a sci-fi universe. Instead of focusing the show on fantastic effects or fanciful technology (like earlier sci-fi shows and movies) he made the stories about the people and their experiences. When Nichelle Nichols (Uhura) confronted Roddenberry and told him that he was just doing morality plays in a futuristic setting, Roddenberry laughed out loud and said "Shhhh ... The producers haven't figured it out yet".


i think they did spice up the entertainment value of star trek after the very first episodes of the original series, which were a lot more cerebral.
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« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2007, 07:25:00 PM »
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And to think my biggest  Star Trek question was " how come they don't wear seat belts on the bridge?":confused:  every other attack you see crewmen  falling all over the place getting hurt. :rofl  you would think in the 26th century that would not be a problem.  :)



Was thinking about that just the other day.


I always hated the Enterprise-D from TNG. Any time a bad guy looked at it wrong " shields are down" or  "weapons are off line".  Chrysler must have built that low bid piece of ****:rolleyes:
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« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2007, 07:30:24 PM »
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Can't wait for star trek 11 thats in the works.


 


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