Author Topic: Is this acceptable? (Read 1744 times)

Vulcan · « **on:** December 02, 2007, 07:01:43 PM »

Films here: http://renaissance.xtreme.net.nz/ms/akid2.zip

Last night I happened upon akid2 in his P-51b. His warping was bad, not just bad, but attrocious to the point of making me, well, suspicious. It was just me seeing it but fellow nits and one rook (fiction) confirmed it too.

Anyhow I pm'd him, telling him he was warping, that he should relog or reconnection. No reply, so I pm'd again. Eventually a squaddie of his (joey04) piped up to say he knew about the problems, he had a slow PC, and he "didn't care". I never had a direct response from 'akid2'.

I'm really suprised someone with such a bad connection is playing, still playing, and able to play without losing connection to the server.

E25280 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 02, 2007, 07:08:10 PM »

Why wouldn't it be acceptable?

If you think it is bad for you, just consider that every time you see him warp, he is seeing everyone around him warp.

He might have a marginal connection, but that shouldn't exclude him from having fun (if he can stand it).

Vulcan · « **Reply #2 on:** December 02, 2007, 07:22:42 PM »

Did you look at the films?

texasmom · « **Reply #3 on:** December 02, 2007, 07:25:29 PM »

I saw that as well (didn't watch the film).
However, it didn't appear at all to be timed for his advantage. It appeared that it was random; and in fact, worked to his own disadvantage nearly constantly.

Vulcan · « **Reply #4 on:** December 02, 2007, 07:30:20 PM »

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Originally posted by texasmom
I saw that as well (didn't watch the film).
However, it didn't appear at all to be timed for his advantage. It appeared that it was random; and in fact, worked to his own disadvantage nearly constantly.

I disagree, he was bombing you guys on the ground. An ostwind or m16 woulda had an impossible time tracking him. You also assume that this is what he experienced on his end, which isn't necessarily true (internet traffic is not necessarily symmetrical).

texasmom · « **Reply #5 on:** December 02, 2007, 07:32:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
I disagree, he was bombing you guys on the ground. An ostwind or m16 woulda had an impossible time tracking him. You also assume that this is what he experienced on his end, which isn't necessarily true (internet traffic is not necessarily symmetrical).

It took him 4+ passes on more than one sortie to kill me in an M3 due to his warping. Nobody takes 4+ passes to kill an M3... not even me. And he's a great shot already, so there's no way that was intentional.

*edit* he may be a spawn camper

but he ain't a cable yanker

E25280 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 02, 2007, 08:13:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
Did you look at the films?

I didn't need to, but just in case there was something "special" about the way he was warping, I checked out both your films . . . and I was right, I didn't need to.

As Texasmom pointed out, there was no advantage to where or when he was warping; so even if I believed one could do that intentionally, it wasn't the case here.

So, again, why would it be unacceptable for someone to try to have some fun? He was having connection problems, which is annoying (as much to him as you, I would wager), but gives him no special advantage.

JB88 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 02, 2007, 08:19:27 PM »

because it wastes other players time and resources.

simple as that.

E25280 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 02, 2007, 08:22:07 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
because it wastes other players time and resources.

simple as that.

Kind of like every reply you make on the BBs?

Vulcan · « **Reply #9 on:** December 02, 2007, 08:23:48 PM »

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Originally posted by E25280
He was having connection problems, which is annoying (as much to him as you, I would wager), but gives him no special advantage.

No according to one of his squaddies he's always like that.

SFCHONDO · « **Reply #10 on:** December 02, 2007, 09:47:28 PM »

Someone with a really bad connection should get booted period.
Others fun shouldn't be compromised by someone with a crappy connection.

DamnedRen · « **Reply #11 on:** December 02, 2007, 09:59:51 PM »

I agree completely with Hondo but only so he'll continue to post.

Sommers · « **Reply #12 on:** December 02, 2007, 10:33:53 PM »

I've had warping problems from time to time due to an inconsistent cable modem connection and I can say that when it happens, the person who is warping is at an EXTREME disadvantage (unless they are timing the warps- which I have yet to witness and I think people's biases lead them to believe this happens much more often than it actually does).

For a warper, there is abosulely no way to accurrately line up a target and eventually the target makes you the target and gets behind you. While it may take a few more passes and a few more rounds, eventually you will get a window to hit a warping opponent. I know how frustrated it is when a warper gets in a lucky hit and brings you down, but he's generally gonna get the worst of it by far. I believe the only people really hurt by warpers are the very best pilots whose accurracy ratings are way up there and they'd almost always destroy the warping target anyway. But before I figured out how to erradicate my warp (which still happens on occassion if my internet connection faulters), dozens of pilots scored victories on me when I had their six for 5-10 seconds at 250 yards and didn't land a single hit. I don't know why any warper would not want to do anything in their capacity to fix the problem unless they are not very serious about the game - becuase its definately not an edge.

JB88 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 02, 2007, 10:40:00 PM »

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Originally posted by E25280
Kind of like every reply you make on the BBs?

you think you got what it takes to roll the smack with me zipcode?

SFCHONDO · « **Reply #14 on:** December 02, 2007, 10:54:34 PM »

LOL JB88

Had to reply for Ren.