The fix to the lancstuka problem

[trigger2]

Originally posted by Xasthur
While we're on the topic of the addition of stupid chit....

Let's put rocket boosters on all the fighters too, yeah?

How about parachutes you can deploy mid-fight so as to force an overshoot more easily? That would be neat.

While were at it why not politically correct paratroopers and Hot Air balloons



Sorry
Couldn't resist :]

[trigger2]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
Maybe Lancs should be perked.

With how slow and badly gunned they were?? No  way...

I've got a picture of their belly gun...



Sten MK3 I do believe...


"OPEN THE BOMB BAY DOORS!! SGT! GRAB THAT STEN AND GET THAT 109 OFF US!!"

[BaldEagl]

Almost any fighter solves the LancStuka problem pretty easily.

Just saying...

[waystin2]

Or This!  

Originally posted by Larry
Yes I know its been asked for many times, but I think its that time again. From everything Iv read I think the wirblewind would be alot better AA tank then the Ostwind. The rof of the WW is around 800rpm compared to the OS's 160rpm. The WWs HE round weighed 0.3 lbs and was fired at a muzzle velocity of 2,953'/sec. One thing that really stands out is that only 43 OWs were produced to the WWs (from what I read) 140. I wouldnt even mind getting rid of the OW and have it replaced with the WW.


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[Denholm]

Me like.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
This Lanc-stuka problem is irritating. Carpetbombing in a dive has shut down many a fine GV battle. I have no problem with heavies doing that as long as they do it in a manner they were designed to. Ive been hanging out a lot of TTs and seeing wave after wave of Lancs in dive bomb mode is just crazy.

                             Maybe Lancs should be perked.

The best way to stop the dive bombing buffs is to put an angle limiter that regulates the angle they can drop their bombs at.  Limit the angle to something like 5 degrees.   There aren't any credible reports of any heavy Allied bomber being used as a dive bomber though some did use shallow dives while bombing but never exceeded beyond 5 degrees.


And yes Gowan, I did get your joke and it was funny ^__^


ack-ack

[Wes14]

Originally posted by Gowan
when im lancstuka'ing, i sometimes break my wings off...

why dont we put dive flaps on them ^_^

Look for pieces of P-38's in the arenas, I think the L has dive flaps. and oddly enough. I see parts of those twin tailed devils all over the place.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

or they could make it so if the lanc is at a negative level the bombs wont release, and just in case one would try to level out just before release, if the plane is "ungodly" over normal max level speed "ie from a dive" the bombs still wont release.

Its that or you code the bombs to not fall out if the bomber is pulling negative g's "so bombs stay up in bomb bay"
Realy, the only thing stoping any plane from being a dive bomber, is the fact its simply not how squads and air forces used them back in the day.

Could a b17 dive bomb at 150-250 mph, drop and pull out? sure..did they?
no.

why?

because the large formations wouldnt allow it, watermelon happens and you wouldnt risk a formation and 8+ peoples lives per plane to make a carpet bombing run more accuret.
Not to mention the real problem is the pin point laser bombs aces high has, real bombs spread out with alt and distance and wind, ours do not....ever.


Make bombs inaccuret over alt and speed, and the dive bombing lanc becomes a moot point. but every other bomb carrying plane in aces high would also suffer from such "realism".

[Ack-Ack]

The only instance that I was able to find about a B-17 being used as a dive bomber was a story about a B-17 that was damaged and decided to dive bomb a Japanese naval ship rather than trying to come around and setup for another level bombing pass.

Major Bernard Schriever, a newly-minted Major fresh from Graduate school at Stanford University, joined the 19th bomb group in Australia and directed Burleson’s effort to perfect the flare racks. In less than 90-days Schriever recommended Louis Burleson for an officer’s commission. Schriever was the pilot of Louis Burleson’s crew on a famous bombing raid there Schriever used the B-17 as a dive bomber, destroying Japanese battleship in an act of extreme heroism. This recollection is from an article about
“They flew in a formation of about a dozen B-17s in a night raid on Rabaul. Their airplane carried the flares and half the regular bomb load. The flare system worked well, but Schriever wanted to check on the bombing results, so they made another circuit over the target area. Flak was heavy but ineffective at the 10,000-foot altitude from which they were bombing.

As they turned, the No. 3 engine burst into a ball of flames. Dougherty, in the left seat, feathered the prop and shut the engine down. They still had bombs on board but did not want to set up another bombing approach. A quick conference on the intercom led to a decision: They would dive-bomb the ships in the harbor.”

Hardly something that was routine as has been claimed by others as a defense to using heavy bombers as a dive bombing platform.

ack-ack

[Gowan]

Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
or they could make it so if the lanc is at a negative level the bombs wont release, and just in case one would try to level out just before release, if the plane is "ungodly" over normal max level speed "ie from a dive" the bombs still wont release.

Its that or you code the bombs to not fall out if the bomber is pulling negative g's "so bombs stay up in bomb bay"
Realy, the only thing stoping any plane from being a dive bomber, is the fact its simply not how squads and air forces used them back in the day.

Could a b17 dive bomb at 150-250 mph, drop and pull out? sure..did they?
no.

why?

because the large formations wouldnt allow it, watermelon happens and you wouldnt risk a formation and 8+ peoples lives per plane to make a carpet bombing run more accuret.
Not to mention the real problem is the pin point laser bombs aces high has, real bombs spread out with alt and distance and wind, ours do not....ever.


Make bombs inaccuret over alt and speed, and the dive bombing lanc becomes a moot point. but every other bomb carrying plane in aces high would also suffer from such "realism".

*slaps the one who makes sense*

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[Mr No Name]

Fix = F6 bombing mode only for heavies

[Yeager]

this is where I pop in and remind you guys that AH is a base capture "game".

Unless your in a controlled scenario where everything tends to flow along more believable lines of action.

[Tilt]

Perk formations

F6 only for bomb release from formations.

F6 only for single "bombers" (as opposed to attackers)

Longer fuse delays for "bombers"


Whilst the above is enforcing a norm (rather than allowing an exception)adding wing weaknesses is just erronious.

[Gowan]

wow.... i really hate retards that dont realize this is a joke, because 1, im not neubob, 2, they cant read the first post

[Gowan]

im sorry if i offended the retards who read my last post, oh wait... if their retarded they probably wouldnt be smart enough to be offended



im being a bad Gowgow to night