Author Topic: Shooting at New Life Church in Colorado Springs (Read 2748 times)

Halo · « **Reply #15 on:** December 09, 2007, 11:58:18 PM »

Many synagogues have had armed guards for a long time. The war against terrorism in whatever form started earlier for them.

-tronski- · « **Reply #16 on:** December 10, 2007, 03:09:39 AM »

Isn't Jesus (or said equivalent) supposed to be watching?

Tronsky

SD67 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 10, 2007, 03:12:46 AM »

Condolences to the families.

rpm · « **Reply #18 on:** December 10, 2007, 03:15:36 AM »

The local McChurch has armed guards to escort them to the bank. It came to light when people learned they were on-duty city officers hiring out during shift to make the money run in city cars.

SD67 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 10, 2007, 03:35:32 AM »

But it's a CHURCH!:confused:
What has happened to the world?

SIG220 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 10, 2007, 05:13:33 AM »

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Originally posted by texasmom
That's the first time I've ever, ever heard of an armed guard at a church.

It now turns out that the guard is a woman. She very quickly attacked the gunman, who was armed with what has been described as an assault weapon. One can only wonder if the recent shootings in Omaha influenced her decision to go after the gunman as aggressively as she did.

Women are not supposed to be very good shots with handguns. And security guards are not known for being all that skilled and courageous. So I wonder if she could have been an off-duty police officer?? It is too bad that someone like her was not employed at the Nebraska shopping mall.

Perhaps she will be nominated for the Presidential Medal of Freedom?? I think that she may very well deserve to get it. Just think how many could have potentially died at the church, if not for her fast action.

SIG 220

SIG220 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 10, 2007, 05:29:00 AM »

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Originally posted by SD67
But it's a CHURCH!:confused:
What has happened to the world?

it is interesting to note that this church actively supports missionary work inside Islamic nations to convert Muslims to Christianity.

In many Islamic states, converting to Christianity is a crime punishable by death. The case of the man who had to flee Afghanistan last year for his life, comes to mind:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189440,00.html

An evangelical church in South Korea had to pull back on their missionary work in Afghanistan earlier this year, after two of their missionaries were executed, and another 21 kidnapped for many weeks, and also threatened with death. The same church had another missionary beheaded in Iraq, and another stabbed to death in Muslim Kenya

Many conservative Muslims in the world are against Christians having the right to preach to them. It is considered a most serious insult to Islam, to suggest that any other religion is also valid.

SIG 220

Chairboy · « **Reply #22 on:** December 10, 2007, 06:16:52 AM »

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Originally posted by SIG220
Women are not supposed to be very good shots with handguns. And security guards are not known for being all that skilled and courageous. So I wonder if she could have been an off-duty police officer?? It is too bad that someone like her was not employed at the Nebraska shopping mall.
SIG 220

You want a side of fries with all those generalizations? My wife's a great shot, and the 'cowardly security guard' thing, you got some evidence to back that up? Or are you still mad about the mallcop asking you and your skateboarding friends not to do board slides down the escalator?

lazs2 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 10, 2007, 08:36:56 AM »

It is a good thing that someone besides the police was armed.. the cops can take the report.

We are a nation of 15 minutes of fame and fad followers. DB cooper made us all skyjackers.. the media made kids killers of sheep in schools.

It will end when more of the bad guys are shot by civilians like this guy was and the media starts reporting that or... when we have a police state where everywhere you go we have armed cops every hundred feet...

I like the former idea better than the latter.

lazs

Tigeress · « **Reply #24 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:03:46 AM »

We the People on their own turf fighting back in kind when under deadly attack...

TIGERESS

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #25 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:43:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Halo
Many synagogues have had armed guards for a long time. The war against terrorism in whatever form started earlier for them.

yeah....like....2000 something years ago.

sad news, best wishes to those concerned.

Maverick · « **Reply #26 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:58:05 AM »

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Originally posted by SD67
But it's a CHURCH!:confused:
What has happened to the world?

What part offends you, that a nut job would attack people in a church, or just that the church folks took steps to defend themselves??

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #27 on:** December 10, 2007, 11:19:09 AM »

doesnt surprise me that the church gaurd was armed correctly.
God did things to his enemys that made hiroshima look like a tea party.

hasnt anyone read the bible? i'm not a devoted christian but man the bible is a fun read. God got so pissed off one time he flooded the earth, come on...he destroyed whole cities if they bad mouthed him.

the only thing that surprises me is that God didnt warn the gaurd in advance, so he could stop the killer before he shot anyone..

Yeager · « **Reply #28 on:** December 10, 2007, 11:33:00 AM »

In the absence of God, evil fills the vacuume.

You can look at it lots of other ways but I believe personaly that our cultural abandonment of life guided by the Doctrine of Christ has led us down this evil path. You can resent people of Christian values and you can deny God in your own life, most people do, but you cannot deny that our society is slowly and inexorably goin down the toilet.

Just my opinion.

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #29 on:** December 10, 2007, 11:37:43 AM »

yeager i wasn't advocating a discussion on god's existance or not with my post. what i was hoping someone more christian than myself would pointout was this.

Maybe god did warn the gaurd in time.
Maybe the gaurd was not receptive to God's way of talking untill some damage had already been done in the physical existance.

i with you agree about society, though i dont blame a lack of religion or a loss of faith in a christian god for this.