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Offline rogerdee

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« on: December 12, 2007, 10:50:13 AM »
ive just had this problem starting on my pc

i fire it up and it will start normaly,next time i try it will just sit there trying to find tie ide harddrives and doming nothing.

il restrat and this may happen again 2 or 3 times or it might find thm and start working straight away.

any ideas guys?
the system is about 4 years old amd 2.6  processor  1.25 meg ram
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2007, 10:54:19 AM »
Possibly the power supply 12V rail going bad, assuming the HD's you have still use the 12V rail for spindle motor power.  5V rail could be getting weak.

Could be the drive(s) going bad.  Some other things come to mind, but these are usually the likely candidates.

How long has it been snce you have cleaned out the power supply of dust bunnies?
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2007, 11:23:33 AM »
Did you move them around, add new ones, or change anything from before? Or did this happen on its own?

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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2007, 02:15:09 PM »
oh i blew the dust out of everything a couple of weeks ago .

its started all on its own i hadnt changed anything except added another fan because one got noisey so i changed it
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2007, 03:31:41 PM »
Well if you've got a BIOS hardware monitor program, I'd check to make sure all the voltages are where they should be (to follow up on what Skuzzy said). Barring that, the drive might be failing.

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2007, 09:19:58 AM »
HMMM.Just recently i experienced the same problem.Thought i had a loose connection.Checked and all appereared fine.pc booted right up.Happened again this morning.Bios showed no hard drive connected. rebooted and all ok.based on skuzzy's response i went back to bios to check power on 12v rail. it indicated 11.3v to 11.5. cpu fan was fluctuating with power. Ran pc wizard and 12v rail indicated 10.95v. Are these power ratings low or normal


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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2008, 03:52:59 PM »
ok so would a new power supply cure this problem as now i have lost a cd drive too? the cv drive went about a week ago and wont come back and now the bloody computer wont boot at all.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2008, 05:20:31 PM »
Won't boot OR starts to boot but hangs when it gets to the CD drive?

Most PCs boot from a CD drive first to give you a chance to rescue it if the HD is severely compromized.

Can you access your Bios and change your boot order, HD first?
Maybe simply un-plugging the coms from the CD drive will force the boot order to skip it(not sure).

Of cource the loss of the CD drive may be a power suppy problem and back to square one.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2008, 12:46:27 PM »
well i checked  the voltages in the bios and they are as they should be so i guess its the hard drive playing up.funny i changed to a older smaller hard drive and although its full of crap and got to be reformated and xp put back on it fired up and both the cd drives showed too:rolleyes:
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2008, 09:25:01 AM »
i tried 5 different hard drives and istill got the same problem.the pc wont find the hard drives and it only finds 1 cd drive  now i am realy fed up.

Now i can even get to use the pc if it does reconise the harddrive it takes so lon for windows to load if it actually loads that its now useless!!



so do u  guys still think is the power supply?
would i be better of with a new supply and a new hard drive?
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2008, 01:06:20 PM »
Any ideas guys? help please

I am getting withdrawel symtoms from ths damn game:eek: :furious :O :rolleyes:
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2008, 01:41:04 PM »
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Originally posted by rogerdee
Any ideas guys? help please

I am getting withdrawel symtoms from ths damn game:eek: :furious :O :rolleyes:


Goto the following web site and download the program..providing you can get your system to "boot"

http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php

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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2008, 08:20:15 AM »
Had this ghost in my machine 2 years ago. Would restart, shutdown or just go straight to full off without warning. It would also hang up on restart or startup. Most of the time it got to the HD and stopped booting.

I cleaned everthing including removing the processor and putting on new cooling paste. Checked every connection, checked voltages and replaced the RAM(wanted to double it anyway). Put the HD in another rig and it seemed to work fine. Used the other rig to scan for virus/spyware/malware.

Then out of frustration I b'slaped it on it's right side real good. I come right out of hybernation-not boot. Been fine for 2 years. My guess is it had poor continuity at a connection somewhere and I missed it.

What I would try first:
Check power suppy. Check all connections. This includes power and com plugs and board sockets. Take apart anything that you can. Even network or modem cards. Any weak connection could be a power drain or com distress.

Pay paticular attention to the points of contact on boards for discoloration as if some of them have gotten hot. Check the pins in connectors to see if one is recessed farther than the others.

When reconnecting try to install cards evenly and firmly. Watch all the wires at connectors to see if one backs out as it's going togeather. Gently push each wire that you can get your fingers on toward the connector just to be sure.

Second: Check what you can with another computer. Drives don't have to be physicly installed, just the power and coms. I even tested the dialup modum in with a old computer. If you RAM will interchange with another rig, test it too

Third:
Bypass what you can. If you can switch video to AVG do so in you Bios. (Check me if I'm wrong, but I believe the boot process is handeled through AVG and not advaced graphics). I say this because Zone Zero may stop the boot because it detects a problem elsewhere-such as your vid card(again, someone check me on this). If you have more than one vid output, hook monitor to the one on the mother board.

Also change the boot order to try HD first if you can in you Bios. Remove any card that are not nessisary for basic computing. Unplug all other drives.
If you cannot change boot order in Bios I THINK zone zero will skip to what's available (check please). I also think that a virus that turns zone zero into the "dead zone" will not even allow it to check for drives- so if it checks for one, that's not the problem(check me one more time).

If you have more than one stick of RAM try it with only one and change them out each try. Make sure it is enough to run on first.

Forth: Smack the crap out of it.

I know it's a lot of work but without AH to play, you may have some free time. And good luck.
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2008, 08:44:41 AM »
well i did as you suggested and checked all the connections and put in a new ide cable.
now i can use my pc with a small harddrive as its the only one that works.
it seems as if my other hardrreives have all gone bad!!!1

time to save for a new harddrive before i reienstall everything,as the other hard drives are not working it appears i have lost everything i had on them:furious
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