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« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2007, 09:04:16 PM »
news flash.........al qaeda is losing.

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« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2007, 09:11:30 PM »
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news flash.........al qaeda is losing.


Tell ya what. When the war on terrorism is over and all the terrorists are gone forever you and I can have a party. No ... really. Call me when it's over.

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« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2007, 09:24:32 PM »
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Only because you guys were broke at the time. :p


People saying "vae victis" deserve the same attitude towards them. Only Russians are traditionally too kind towards defeated enemies....

Didn't you hear that on Dec 12 we stopped our participation in Conventional Arms in Europe treaty? Could be interesting to see Russian Railway corp statistics now, how many tanks/artillery are relocated from Siberia/Far East to European Russia now.

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« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2007, 09:26:10 PM »
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Tell ya what. When the war on terrorism is over and all the terrorists are gone forever you and I can have a party. No ... really. Call me when it's over.


They are not going to get extinct until US stops supporting them in Chechnya and terrorist enclaves like Kosovo.

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« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2007, 09:32:43 PM »
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They are not going to get extinct until US stops supporting them in Chechnya and terrorist enclaves like Kosovo.


Hate to tell ya. Terrorism is not gonna "get extinct" until the human race is. True pragmatism knows no politiks. :D

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« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2007, 09:39:56 PM »
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I would bet MT's neighbors just about the time he reached shop class age considered an exit strategy from the neighborhood.  Similar to how most of rational america feels about California today!

TJ


Here's a great example of the deterioration of the ability of young Americans to write something either relevant or funny. Sad but educational. Maybe they'll catch you up when you get to high school.

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« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2007, 09:49:14 PM »
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Hate to tell ya. Terrorism is not gonna "get extinct" until the human race is. True pragmatism knows no politiks. :D


There was NO terrorism in USSR. Know why?

Let me tell you.

There was no environment for spreading terror. No so-called "free press".

Anyway "free-press" is a nonsense, it doesn't exist in the West too.

I am an enemy of any kind of "democracy", all for Totalitarism. Totalitarism means much more freedom for an individual then so-called "democracy".

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« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2007, 09:54:49 PM »
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There was NO terrorism in USSR. Know why?

Let me tell you.

There was no environment for spreading terror. No so-called "free press".

Anyway "free-press" is a nonsense, it doesn't exist in the West too.

I am an enemy of any kind of "democracy", all for Totalitarism. Totalitarism means much more freedom for an individual then so-called "democracy".


Apparently the totalitarian definition of terrorism (and freedom) is different from the non-totalitarian version. But that's not news, either. And we're all about the news in this thread. :D

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« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2007, 10:08:48 PM »
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There was NO terrorism in USSR. Know why?

Let me tell you.

There was no environment for spreading terror. No so-called "free press".

Anyway "free-press" is a nonsense, it doesn't exist in the West too.

I am an enemy of any kind of "democracy", all for Totalitarism. Totalitarism means much more freedom for an individual then so-called "democracy".


There was 600 recorded terrorist acts per year in 1985 through 1987 in Soviet controlled Afghanistan. So much for Soviet "no environment for spreading terror".

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« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2007, 10:09:22 PM »
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Apparently the totalitarian definition of terrorism (and freedom) is different from the non-totalitarian version. But that's not news, either. And we're all about the news in this thread. :D


Terrorism is terrorism: tell me bout any terror acts in USSR after 1925.

Freedom is what I can personally afford to do myself. Doesn't have to do anything to do with political/social system. Freedom is inside You.

But I have to admit that you are right to some extent: "democratic" definition of "freedom" means that someone can bomb your home and kill your family to "liberate" you.

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« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2007, 10:12:47 PM »
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There was 600 recorded terrorist acts per year in 1985 through 1987 in Soviet controlled Afghanistan. So much for Soviet "no environment for spreading terror".


Now in "democratic" Iraq you guys have 600 terrorist acts in how long? one week?

My friends who served in Afghanistan said they could illegally run away from their base in Kabul and walk in the marketplace wearing Soviet uniforms, unarmed, absolutely no fear. Is it possible in Iraq now?

You guys teaching us how to wage wars - it's more then funny :D

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« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2007, 10:14:42 PM »
So you admit you were wrong and that there were terrorists acts under the Soviet system?

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« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2007, 10:26:38 PM »
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So you admit you were wrong and that there were terrorists acts under the Soviet system?


No. Why did you think I do?

There was no Soviet system in Afghanistan. That's simple. They didn't have a system of working people Councils there. USSR was the only country in the world that had this very special system of self-government.

There was at least one terror act performed in USSR in 1977, but it didn't reach it's goal of spreading terror, and it was made by people obviously insane, Armenian nationalists, fighting, as they said, "Russo-Jewish occupation".

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« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2007, 10:27:59 PM »
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Terrorism is terrorism: tell me bout any terror acts in USSR after 1925.

Freedom is what I can personally afford to do myself. Doesn't have to do anything to do with political/social system. Freedom is inside You.

But I have to admit that you are right to some extent: "democratic" definition of "freedom" means that someone can bomb your home and kill your family to "liberate" you.


Obviously you don't consider terrorism conducted on the people by those in power as qualifying. But then you're confused about the actual ideology and lies and practices, in general, aren't you?

I know the true definition of Democracy and totalitarianism. I'm not confused about what properly represents the ideals of my nation or not when leaders, legislators, diplomats and bureacrats here screw the pooch. I'm even allowed to say when they do, in public. Is the book "1984" still banned in Russia?

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« Reply #59 on: December 15, 2007, 10:32:27 PM »
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No. Why did you think I do?

There was no Soviet system in Afghanistan. That's simple. They didn't have a system of working people Councils there. USSR was the only country in the world that had this very special system of self-government.

There was at least one terror act performed in USSR in 1977, but it didn't reach it's goal of spreading terror, and it was made by people obviously insane, Armenian nationalists, fighting, as they said, "Russo-Jewish occupation".


And there you have it, in a nutshell. Under our system a failure to adhere to legality by our forces abroad is considered a failure and may be subject to legal ramifications. Apparently you, as a self-appointed spokesman for all that's good under a totalitarian regime, see any and all illegality conducted by Soviet troops abroad as not only excusable but acceptable.

So much for proving anything practically superior about totalitarianism. ;) :aok