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Offline Boroda

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« on: December 14, 2007, 08:45:02 PM »
It's a follow-up to this
 thread with updates and opinions. Originally it was about Russian CV group maneuvering in Norwegian North Sea oil fields.

Some comments after watching Russian media in between working my bellybutton off and performing some acts of pure idiocy for the whole week:

It's amazing, but I didn't hear a SINGLE WORD about it in mass-media. Only Internet discussions, mostly based on reports from one guy who lives in Norway. I admit that I could miss some news programs on Zvezda TV (owned by Defense Ministry) and I don't buy Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star) newspaper, didn't read it for 20 years since my Father retired.

On the day I posted I have seen news from Norwegian North Sea oil-fields. You know what?! Oil leak on one of the drilling platforms, 6000 tons in the water, biggest ecological disaster in decades! It was the first report in some TV news, sharing first place sometimes with Italian trucker strike and "freezing" (LOL) American Midwest. Putin/Medvedev were already out of top news.

Now an interesting opinion about the Mediterranean voyage from Mikhail Leontiev, pro-Kremlin journalist, our greatest propaganda warrior. He said that there is an opinion that Russian task-force moves there to show the St. Andrew's Flag in case Kosovo declares "independence". Belgrade already said they feel quite eager to destroy that terrorist gang nest if they'll formally separate from Serbia. Nothing will save poor Albanian mob from _true_ ethnic cleansings this time bu another NATO intervention. Seeing a Russian task force from Northern Fleet supported by the whole Black Sea Fleet will probably make Western "hawks" think if they want to face consequences of openly attacking Russian Navy units.

Russia has an interesting position about Kosovo. If West accepts separation of Kosovo, then Russia feels free to recognize Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Osetia, who are eager to join Russian Federation. Today Georgia again threatened Russia (LOL!!!) that it will declare war on us if we do. It's like Armenia declaring war on the US. I bet - American Joint Staff will crap their pants

What happened today is absolutely incredible: EU stated that they'll NOT support Kosovo independence if it isn't mutually agreed by both Serbian and Albanian sides. Know why?! Cyprus, Greece and Spain suddenly supported Serbs! They all have same problems with separatists, and they don't need any stupid precedents. Other EU nations probably still prefer to enjoy Kosovo Albanians selling drugs all over Europe and providing sexual slaves.
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 08:48:55 PM »
Leontiev's interview in Russian on Echo website: http://echo.msk.ru/programs/personalno/57139/

Second half is about Kosovo.

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2007, 01:40:00 AM »
have seen nothing of any of that on our"news"

nice to get info form "outside" the "western" world


Please feel free to take some of the heat off of USa for a bit..

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 09:02:21 AM »
Except for the most remote demonstration of national power in general, what do manuevers in the North Sea have to do with landlocked Kosovo?

After again doing a little research on the tangled politics of the Kosovo area, it's difficult to imagine any "permanent" solution to the area of Europe that has always been fought over between East and West.  

Note that in recent decades disputed areas always seem to be in Europe, not in Asia, i.e., much more Muslim intrusion into Europe than Christian into Asia.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 09:18:38 AM »
The oil spill is only an economic disaster, not an environmental one. It's far out in the Norwegian Sea and it will all be cleaned up before it reaches land.

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 09:24:31 AM »
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Note that in recent decades disputed areas always seem to be in Europe, not in Asia, i.e., much more Muslim intrusion into Europe than Christian into Asia.


That's because our media (and by extension - our populations) do not care much for what happens in Asia, Africa and other places where there are numerous wars going on right now. If someone gets loudmouthed in Kosovo it makes the news because Kosovo is right in our backyard. Who cares if there's a dozen wars in Africa killing thousands every day?




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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2007, 09:26:10 AM »
Isn't norway part of russia anyway?

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2007, 09:28:48 AM »
Nope, but isn't America just another British colony? ;)

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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2007, 09:45:50 AM »
yes it is..  they are welcome to come and try to rule us.  they might have less luck than the russians will have with norway would be my guess.

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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2007, 09:54:16 AM »
Nah ... I don't think so. You people could use some real leadership anyhow. C'mon Lazs, sing the God Save the Queen and be a good loyal subject. ;)

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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2007, 10:03:27 AM »
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Nah ... I don't think so. You people could use some real leadership anyhow. C'mon Lazs, sing the God Save the Queen and be a good loyal subject. ;)

I think Lazs might be loosing his mind.
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2007, 10:08:29 AM »
well.. they are coming over here in record numbers... but hardly an invasion.  

"British immigrants have continued to come to the United States during the second half of the 20th century. According to the 2000 U.S. census, 613,000 Americans were born in Britain. In the 1990s British people accounted for about 2 percent of all immigrants to the United States."

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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2007, 10:43:04 AM »
They just want to see the colonies, that's all. After all you are all British. ;)

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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2007, 12:08:35 PM »
We did steal the Beatles....

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2007, 12:11:23 PM »
Which Country is it again with all the Dykes and Tulips...Norway or Holland?

Oh wait, Holland has the flowers.

Never mind.

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