Author Topic: At what distance , the most common shot? (Read 2130 times)

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #30 on:** December 17, 2007, 12:57:04 AM »

hey trigger thats an interesting setup you describe. im curious though about snapshots and 'one timers' , do you feel you lose out on those areas of gunnery by having your convergence staggered so?

i find i only make snapshots count when i catch them at convergence. Out of convergnce, too far or too near, i often just put a neat row of holes either side of the canopy on both wings.

could you list any other advantages to a staggered gun setup, surprisingly in the 5 years i've been here, i have never once tried a staggered setup.

what more can you tell us about this style of convergence, i expect you have some good experience to share.

S!

bat

kilz · « **Reply #31 on:** December 17, 2007, 03:47:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I understand completely and am a far better gunner then Kilz. anytime you want to find out sweet heart i am in the DA every day.

And "I" cant make 1.3k shots consistently, if at all. In fact I dont even try to shoot from that far away. well sorry you dont take the time to learn how to shoot 1-1.5k out. had a very good teacher his old name was Thummper then he went to the LTARs and was known as LTARthmp

So I understand far better then most, and more except for those few who actually spend more time in bombers then I do. And as I said there are only a few of them. blah blah blah

Anyone with those kind of kill/death ratios, so few hours in bombers, and only a few months in the game, shouldn't be bragging about killing from 1.3k away. Hes not even making his 600 yrd shots let alone his 1.3 ones. where do you get a few months from noob. if you dont know your facts then shut that mouth. I have been in this game way longer then you can even think of. Like i said care to find out I am in the DA every day teaching and training bunch of folks how to fly and bomb and gv and all that good stuff. care to learn something or even school me feel free to join us. I will give you one thing no i dont bomb that much anymore. if you think i score hore then you need to look at my stats again noob. anyone that knows me will tell you that i dont score hore. i play to have fun and squelch noobs like you. want to turn this into a personal thing then lets end it by meeting me in the DA on Monday. plus if you had anything in that head of yours you will see that even the time i have been on the BBS says that i have been here more then a few months frickin noobs

kilz · « **Reply #32 on:** December 17, 2007, 03:58:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Yeah sure:lol Spoken like a guy with 7 kills from bombers this tour to 26 deaths. Or 5 kills to 40 deaths last month.

Your just an ace Kilz.

I have 7 kills SWEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

dude you all hung up on my nuts get off.

i dont bomb to get kills. if you are running a bomber mission and get attacked then you have failed your bomber mission. i normaly fly with escorts and i dont bomb below 15k. unless i am doing a NOE town bombing raid then yes i die alot by the ack. i die alot to cvs. and i also die alot to planes. not saying i will kill everyone of them fighters at 1-1.5k but i know i can, and i have done it before and i can still do it.

score dont mean squat around here. you will learn that sometime.

kilz · « **Reply #33 on:** December 17, 2007, 04:00:51 AM »

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Originally posted by E25280
You misunderstand, Rich. "Deaths" occur in many ways, not just against enemy planes. There is field ack, ostwinds, ships guns, intentional augering, and even blowing yourself up with your own bombs as you lancstuka against ground vehicles. To pretend that his deaths are necessarily indicative of his gunnery ability is folly.

Rich you did misunderstand E25280 he is an old squadie of mine and was having some fun with me. LTARget knows how well i bomb and how well my gunnery is in a bomber.

kilz · « **Reply #34 on:** December 17, 2007, 04:02:09 AM »

and if your so fascinated with my scores you can look up LTARkils and LTARkilz<---my first CPID ever. i am done with this one.

Rich46yo · « **Reply #35 on:** December 17, 2007, 04:58:10 AM »

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Originally posted by kilz
Rich you did misunderstand E25280 he is an old squadie of mine and was having some fun with me. LTARget knows how well i bomb and how well my gunnery is in a bomber.

What part of "I understand" dont you understand?

And which is it? Are you asking a question or being insulting?

Your game name of Kilz goes back maybe 4 or 5 tours. Or maybe 4 tours before you took a break, or whatever.

And if you climb to 15,000' every time you take bombers out, or most of the time, then your gunnery skills are even less then I thought.

It all started with you bragging, while quoting me, that you routinely kill out to 1.3k. And you cant do that. I fully understand all the intricacies of flying bombers, and kills/deaths, probably better then most.

Guys like 999000, who really can gun, routinely post 1 to 1 kill/deaths as I do, or as I come close to. Shooting that far away is a waste of ammo. And you dont have the kills to back up your mouth so I suggest you call it quits now.

May I ask how old are you?

mna78 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 17, 2007, 06:54:43 AM »

errr... back on topic, I tend to shot <400 in fighters, ping people with my .303's at 800 to try and get them to turn if they're running and around 800 in buffs.

goober69 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 17, 2007, 07:35:40 AM »

i only shoot within 400 my convergance is set to 350 in all planes

on bombers i start shooting at 600

now if someone is trying to run i will nose up a little and fire a one click burst over their plane to try to get them to turn but i dont waste a lot of ammo.

VonMessa · « **Reply #38 on:** December 17, 2007, 08:46:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Rino
Buffers shouldn't brag..period:D
If 999000 doesn't, than no one should.

Good point since 999000 has more kills in a bomber (by 42) then I have of kills total!

yankedudel · « **Reply #39 on:** December 17, 2007, 09:35:31 AM »

I don't think I should even load guns on my aircraft for I am too often dead before I can even think about using them!!!!!
Regards,
Cannon Fodder
HEHE!

Spazzter · « **Reply #40 on:** December 17, 2007, 10:02:20 AM »

I set my convergence for all guns at 275, except for the planes that have all 50 cals like the F6f or ponies. 50cals I will always set at 300 since they hold their line longer. I usually shoot at 400 or less. The closer the better.

~~Spazz~~

bongaroo · « **Reply #41 on:** December 17, 2007, 10:32:42 AM »

i love seeing bombers shooting at 1.5k, i'll just wiggle around there for a while and they burn off their ammo, making for easy kilz (lol)

kilz · « **Reply #42 on:** December 17, 2007, 11:14:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
What part of "I understand" dont you understand?

And which is it? Are you asking a question or being insulting?

Your game name of Kilz goes back maybe 4 or 5 tours. Or maybe 4 tours before you took a break, or whatever.

And if you climb to 15,000' every time you take bombers out, or most of the time, then your gunnery skills are even less then I thought.

It all started with you bragging, while quoting me, that you routinely kill out to 1.3k. And you cant do that. I fully understand all the intricacies of flying bombers, and kills/deaths, probably better then most.

Guys like 999000, who really can gun, routinely post 1 to 1 kill/deaths as I do, or as I come close to. Shooting that far away is a waste of ammo. And you dont have the kills to back up your mouth so I suggest you call it quits now.

May I ask how old are you?

only thing i have left to say is i am in the DA every day. care to join me for a little one on one.

Maybe you didnt read all my post. like i said do your paper work before you open that mouth of yours. LTARkilz goes back to tour 60 or 61 something like that.

BaldEagl · « **Reply #43 on:** December 17, 2007, 12:53:31 PM »

The way I've been flying/fighting this camp I should have my convergences set to -650.

Rich46yo · « **Reply #44 on:** December 17, 2007, 05:24:02 PM »

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Originally posted by kilz
only thing i have left to say is i am in the DA every day. care to join me for a little one on one.

Maybe you didnt read all my post. like i said do your paper work before you open that mouth of yours. LTARkilz goes back to tour 60 or 61 something like that.

Yeah do that. Show me how you consistantly make kills at 1.3 out. I mean with your guns not with your mouth. With your mouth I'll bet you can make shots a lot farther out.

So what is your game name? Kilz or LTARKilz? Cause I cant find anything under LTARKilz and under Kilz its obvious your bomber gunnery lacks.

That is what were talking about right? Bomber gunnery? If there is some kind of misunderstanding then we'll let sleeping dogs lie. Either way im not going to get into a pissing match here. Just so you know theres a reason if I left the thread. Some guys are having a fine conversation and I'd prefer not to see it ruined.