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Offline Motherland

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Why is the La7 not perked?
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2007, 05:49:32 PM »
Not really, no. The 30mm has little ammunition, the ballistics suck and it has plenty of cockpit frames to lose your enemy in. It doesnt zoom climb all that well and its turning ability is average at best. The K4 is an uber climber with a gun package that will vaporize you... IF you get hit with it. It doesnt do EVERYTHING well like a spit or lala.

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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2007, 05:55:02 PM »
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Not really, no. The 30mm has little ammunition, the ballistics suck and it has plenty of cockpit frames to lose your enemy in. It doesnt zoom climb all that well and its turning ability is average at best. The K4 is an uber climber with a gun package that will vaporize you... IF you get hit with it. It doesnt do EVERYTHING well like a spit or lala.


You can perk the K-4 also when it gets a decent skin.:aok
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« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2007, 05:59:51 PM »
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Sad truth is, most everyone who takes up a 14 treats it like any other Spit- which is a very sad thing.  

It makes baby Jesus cry, the way they fly it.  :(


That's the horrible, sad truth indeed. It's more of an energy fighter and it wasn't until a few years ago I realized that it was a plane that entered service and combat as early as February 1944! I always thought, back then, that the Mk.IX (being a late-mark) was a 1944 plane and the Spit14 about as 1945-ish as the 4-Hog.

Make it energy fight and it will rock!

Lusche, how should the flight axes act? I never knew that it was messed; in fact, I used to hate the Spitfire XIV for that reason.
I don't think enough people will petition enough to fix it but if they did, I'd practice flying it a lot more.
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« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2007, 06:20:09 PM »
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Lusche, how should the flight axes act? I never knew that it was messed; in fact, I used to hate the Spitfire XIV for that reason.
I don't think enough people will petition enough to fix it but if they did, I'd practice flying it a lot more.


Uhm, I'm rather reluctant to discuss (perceived) FM issues, or to state "something is broken, they should fix it" because I feel not qualified enough - both in RL and cartoon game FM. Especially when it comes to how it should be.

I can only say I just have the same problem with both the TA152 and the Spit XIV. Both are excessively bouncy in their pitch axis to me. This is completely unlike all other planes, and I actually have a very hard time hitting the enemy in a dogfight when flying one of these two.
(I do have also some very nasty slow speed stabilty problems with both, but in that case I truly don't know if this is wrong at all)
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« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2007, 06:26:42 PM »
It's not perked because 1/2 the player base would leave , whine , stomp . cry, fall to the ground in convulsions and be generally a baby.

LA7 = Passifier for the babies.
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« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2007, 07:11:11 PM »
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Uhm, I'm rather reluctant to discuss (perceived) FM issues, or to state "something is broken, they should fix it" because I feel not qualified enough - both in RL and cartoon game FM. Especially when it comes to how it should be.

I can only say I just have the same problem with both the TA152 and the Spit XIV. Both are excessively bouncy in their pitch axis to me. This is completely unlike all other planes, and I actually have a very hard time hitting the enemy in a dogfight when flying one of these two.
(I do have also some very nasty slow speed stabilty problems with both, but in that case I truly don't know if this is wrong at all)

The 152 is almost nothing like it used to be in AH1.  A  completely different plane.
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« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2007, 08:15:35 PM »
because there has to be a line somwhere bettween perked and unperked. If it was perked then new guys would move on to the next best plane and ask the same dry question in relation to it.:aok
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« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2007, 08:27:38 PM »
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Whether it is performance (F4U-4) or great guns (F4U-1C) that causes the overuse is irrelevant. If you want a plane to be perked it is useless to point to performance as long as usage numbers are not unbalancing (like the thread starter did).


If this is the case, the only way you could truly determine which planes are unbalancing is to take away all perks.  Then, after a month, look at the useage numbers.  My guess is that the Tempest and C-Hog would have the highest useage numbers.  IMHO, the P-51D, Niki, LA-7, and Spit 16 would all have higher useage numbers than the F4U4, certainly the Spit 14.  

Considering a plane like the P-47N has a higher ENY than the P-51D and knowing that the useage of the P-47N pales in comparison to the useage of the P-51D, I don't think that "imbalancing of the MA" is the only criteria with which HTC perks planes.  The P-47N certainly does not run the risk of unbalancing the arenas--not by a long shot.

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« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2007, 08:33:18 PM »
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Considering a plane like the P-47N has a higher ENY than the P-51D and knowing that the useage of the P-47N pales in comparison to the useage of the P-51D, I don't think that "imbalancing of the MA" is the only criteria with which HTC perks planes.  The P-47N certainly does not run the risk of unbalancing the arenas--not by a long shot.


And it is not perked ;)
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« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2007, 09:00:29 PM »
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But, as was already pointed out, these advantages are having no effect big impact on the arenas. If you look up the stats, La's (as well as Spit 16s or N1k's) are far from being dominating or destabilzing the arenas in any way.
Also you have to take into account that the extremely short legs usually confine the La's to base defence or short range furballs. You rarely see them venturing deep into enemy territory.


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Current top K/D fighters in LW arenas:



I wonder why nobody asks for the 109K-4 to be perked? ;)

where did you get that
the reson why the 109k-4 isnt perked is because a it has a 30 which only about 500 people can use against fighters b it cant dive on its life 5 it is very fragle
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« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2007, 09:19:06 PM »
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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2007, 09:19:30 PM »
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If it weren't perked, it would probably be flown a bit more, thus resulting in more opportunity to get better scores.

Note I said better opportunity, not necessarily better score. There's no way of knowing.


While I agree that it would be flown a bit more, I think it would be also flown less carefully and more by unskilled pilots, and therefore reduce the K/D ratio.

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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2007, 11:50:26 PM »
the only two planes I find threatening in unskilled hands are the n1k2 and la7. when they fly together and you have to fight both at the same time in a 190a8 your in for a rough time.
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« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2007, 12:12:22 AM »
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And it is not perked ;)


Sorry, just extrapolating the common nature of the ENY rating and perk points.  :aok

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« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2007, 12:36:16 AM »
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Not really, no.  



yes really, yes.