Tiger II

[Viking]

No more tanks ... period. Preferably remove the ones we have as well!

[Blimpy]

It would be great to see this tank as the next in the gv line-up.  The T-34-85 would be a lot of fun to drive and would finally be able to face the Sherman and Tiger on a more equal footing.

[TUXC]

How about a normal Sherman with the original 75mm gun so we have some cannon fodder?

[john9001]

tank destroyers would be good, light armor, high speed, big guns.

[Karnak]

The problem with tanks as opposed to fighters is that armor penetration of earlier guns simply cannot deal with later tanks.  A .303 can still damage an Me262, Tempest or F4U-4, but the main gun on a Panzer III or Type 97 Chi-Ha is about as usefull as Polish lances against a Tiger or T-34's armor.

Because of this, we will never have a mix of GVs on the ground like we have aircraft in the skies.  Our best hope is to get a bevy of the most comparable tanks and hope for some kind of split like the P-51D, Spitfire Mk XVI, La-7 and N1K2-J seem to have achieved.  Maybe for tanks that could be Panzer IV H, T-34/85 and a Jumbo Sherman.

You will never get that guy who is good and like to show off by taking his Panzer III or Type 97 Chi-Ha out to fight those as unlike aircraft the newer "dweeb" tanks would simply be immune to him, not just needed better tactics to deal with.  There will be no P-40 or C.202 in the tank world.

[Viking]

Actually the 50 mm gun of the Panzer III is fully capable of penetrating the side and rear armour of late war tanks. The Tiger is itself a mid-war tank as it entered service in 1942.

[ssDruid]

Originally posted by VansCrew1
No it's easy to kill not.An M4 can kill a tiger in 1 shot and most people in a panzer can kill a tiger with 1 or 2 shots.And even now a T-34 with the HVAP shell can at least pop a tigers turret if it is close enough.

I would like to see more american tanks,British tanks, and even some japanese tank.And even some more russian tank.And their was a austria tank.

Just my 0.2cents.

Just to add my two cents into the conversation. Vanscrew you really need to do more reading on armored warfare. The HVAP (High Velocity Armor Projectile) does not pop turrets. In all actuality it is the HE round (High Explosive) that traditionally pops the turret off of armored vehicles. The high velocity kinetic energy rounds just normally pass through the armor plate and create a spall effect inside the vehicle.
Do some research.

[Viking]

Yes ssDruid, but the hot metal ricocheting around inside the turret usually sets of the ammunition stored there.

[splitatom]

Originally posted by Lusche
You are new, aren't you?

Until about 7 months ago, the Tiger perks actually were up - it did cost 50 perks then. But the Tiger was almost almost invincible in tank combat, unless you could get a flank shot on it. The arrival of the Sherman Firefly chnaged that drastically, thus the reduction.

(Currently the Tiger has an overall K/D of 3.4, it used to be well over 6.0 before the Firefly showed up)

before the sherman many people had to get fighters to target them with bombs  and that was all they could do exept at point blank range i rememberpeople landing 10-15 kills every hour at tank town

[splitatom]

i remember before they perked the sherman everyone used it at tank town and every where and then all of a suden all the tiger disapered

[moot]

There should be something for GVs akin to the 262 for planes, perked equaly.

[Big Rat]

I think a tank destroyer would be fun to have.  I wouldn't go with anything as powerfull as a Jagtiger or anything like that , but something like a Jagdpanzer IV with either the L-48 or if you really want to put a good gun on it the L-70.  This would give you better armor protection then the panzer IV with a lower profile (could probably hide behind small hills in this game), but would have the combat limitations of no turret.  They would be best used in defensive rolls, such as ambush and base defence.  As far as perk value, I don't think the L-48 version should be perked but maybe a light perk on an L-70 version.

Just a thought
Pat Kunz
BigRat

[chris3]

oh jes
im for this baby........

[BigPlay]

Originally posted by ssDruid
Just to add my two cents into the conversation. Vanscrew you really need to do more reading on armored warfare. The HVAP (High Velocity Armor Projectile) does not pop turrets. In all actuality it is the HE round (High Explosive) that traditionally pops the turret off of armored vehicles. The high velocity kinetic energy rounds just normally pass through the armor plate and create a spall effect inside the vehicle.
Do some research.

Actually the big explosion was generally the interior ammo igniting. HE rounds generally could not penatrate heavy armored vehicals.

[OOZ662]

I think he might be confusing HEAT with regular HE.