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« on: December 20, 2007, 04:16:29 PM »
ok we have a Tiger I right? It is Hard To kill right?? The problem with it is that its perk is set around 32!
I think HTC should put the perk up.

Also I think we need the Tiger II which is even better then the Tiger I and should be perked even more. :aok

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Re: Tiger II
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 04:23:11 PM »
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ok we have a Tiger I right? It is Hard To kill right?? The problem with it is that its perk is set around 32!
I think HTC should put the perk up.


You are new, aren't you? ;)

Until about 7 months ago, the Tiger perks actually were up - it did cost 50 perks then. But the Tiger was almost almost invincible in tank combat, unless you could get a flank shot on it. The arrival of the Sherman Firefly chnaged that drastically, thus the reduction.

(Currently the Tiger has an overall K/D of 3.4, it used to be well over 6.0 before the Firefly showed up)
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 04:24:04 PM »
If we get the Tiger II (PzKw VIB Königstiger) then we'd need to balance it with the IS-2. Now I wouldn't mind that, but it's like opening a can of worms in terms of "they got that so we want this" debating. Now I wouldn't mind a T-34-85 added to the bunch. It's seems like the logical next step, more so than a Königstiger anyway no matter how much I love it. :D

Something I'd like to see is Panzerjägers, or tank destroyers, introduced. Like the Su-85, Su-100, Hetzer, PzJ IV, Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger. Guess that's another can of worms right there. :D

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Re: Re: Tiger II
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 04:26:59 PM »
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(Currently the Tiger has an overall K/D of 3.4, it used to be well over 6.0 before the Firefly showed up)



And the Firefly has a good gun yes... but it's still a Sherman. Excuse me but... :rofl

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Re: Re: Tiger II
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 04:29:07 PM »
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You are new, aren't you? ;)

Until about 7 months ago, the Tiger perks actually were up - it did cost 50 perks then. But the Tiger was almost almost invincible in tank combat, unless you could get a flank shot on it. The arrival of the Sherman Firefly chnaged that drastically, thus the reduction.

(Currently the Tiger has an overall K/D of 3.4, it used to be well over 6.0 before the Firefly showed up)



When i came the Firefly was just starting development and i guess i never checked the perk points for the Tiger....



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Re: Re: Re: Tiger II
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 04:30:10 PM »
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And the Firefly has a good gun yes... but it's still a Sherman. Excuse me but... :rofl

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Re: Re: Re: Tiger II
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 04:35:38 PM »
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And the Firefly has a good gun yes... but it's still a Sherman. Excuse me but... :rofl
 


Well, for being only a Sherman it's doing quite well:

Tiger K/D vs.:
T-34....................24.57
Panzer IV...............5.33
Sherman Firefly.......1.28
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 04:40:38 PM »
It's the first shot factoring in. If the Tiger fire first and hit, you're still as dead as a T-34. However if you sneak up on a Tiger that killed you in your previous sortie, chance is good you'll get him.

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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2007, 06:31:09 PM »
Tigers are pretty worthless now...IMHO.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2007, 07:10:46 PM »
If you think about it, and realise that the strength of the Tiger is not it's "invincible armour" or the 88Kwk, instead it was in it's employment.  Successful Heavy Panzer Battalions that employed them used other Tigers in support, and they tried as best as they could to use the Tiger's main advantage, range.

When the Tiger appeared on the battlefield, it was indeed a phenomenal tank, but not because it was invincible.  It was because the enemies did not have a comparable tank.  That is why the development of the Russian T-34-85, the IS-1, and the SU-100 + 152 arrived.  They were there to combat heavy tanks.  

In the end, the Tiger's did well because their crews were well trained.  But, shear numbers, lack of supplies, and parts doomed them.

I think the Tiger is about as good as it should be in this game.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2007, 07:11:17 PM »
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If we get the Tiger II (PzKw VIB Königstiger) then we'd need to balance it with the IS-2.
Since all vehicles are allowed by all sides, why would we have to "balance" anything?  It would balance itself.

I would much prefer a larger selection of "lesser tanks" before any more perked rides.
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2007, 09:01:25 PM »
I've seen the Tiger II up close at Fort Knox's Patton Museum.  The armor is immensely thick.  Not only that, it dwarfs the Sherman and Panther nearby.

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Re: Tiger II
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2007, 06:07:57 PM »
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ok we have a Tiger I right? It is Hard To kill right??



No it's easy to kill not.An M4 can kill a tiger in 1 shot and most people in a panzer can kill a tiger with 1 or 2 shots.And even now a T-34 with the HVAP shell can at least pop a tigers turret if it is close enough.

I would like to see more american tanks,British tanks, and even some japanese tank.And even some more russian tank.And their was a austria tank.

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Re: Re: Tiger II
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2007, 06:15:12 PM »
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most people in a panzer can kill a tiger with 1 or 2 shots.


"most" people can't.
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2007, 06:17:45 PM »
well....."Most" good people can.You get my drift.

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