More realism

[raider73]

Ah rgr that sorry about that. Never been that high in real life.

[zoozoo]

no

[raider73]

^SQUEAK!!

[Arlo]

Someone's not happy. He knows when you are sleeping.

[Ni7suj]

Why not just an extreme realism arena?

[SAS_KID]

Thats what he wants...an extreme realism arena.

[stodd]

no auto take offs? how will noobs ever get into the air?

[Rino]

Originally posted by SAS_KID
Thats what he wants...an extreme realism arena.

Does that mean you have to light your hair on fire when you get shot
down?

[splitatom]

it wouldnt be that bad if the guns jamed ocasionaly when you shot in long hoseings but randomly no it would teach the new guys how to aims:)

[Hien]

Originally posted by Rino
Does that mean you have to light your hair on fire when you get shot
down?

You mean the older pilots don't already do that?  Must be something else that makes them bald...  

I can deal with Engine Overheat, and friendly collisions, even dead reckoning.  Atleast on IL-2...  Not that big of a deal.  

Auto-Take off, I don't even use it until after I KNOW I can takeoff in the plane of my choice.  
Not having the option to use it wouldn't be that bad, though, I pity the fool without a twist stick or pedals.

Gun Jamming over long bursts wouldn't be that big of a problem to me... As long as 1-2 seconds isn't long... Because a jammed gun in a Yak-9U would be a problem.  D3A would um... lose alot of... killing abilty with jammed guns.  But I don't mind the challenge!  

One 7.6mm gun vs P-51 Engine, enough hits and I might still hit SOMETHING useful.

I say go for it on all but the Auto-Takeoff one...  Would be... hard... without proper equipment.

[NoBaddy]

Sounds ok to me. When you die, there is a nice virtual funeral and your account is canceled. Then you go find another game that isn't REAL enough for yah.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by WOOD1
I'd like to see a more realistic arena, not so arcade like. Example, engines that overheat, guns that jam, bombs that are duds, friendly collisions (away from the base of course), dead reckoning navigation without your icon on the map. And no auto take off, no stall limiter, none of that crap. The list goes on....Just my two cents worth but I'd like to play a WWII flight sim that is more realistic, this is a fun game but not close to being realisitic.

You have to balance out "realism" with game play.  After all this is still a subscription based game and those changes you want will not make this game easier for new players to come in and learn.

Players will spend more time fiddling with their plane instead of fighting, which is what this game is all about.  I think HTC has done a good job of keeping the balance.

However, you can still play with realism in mind.  The next time you get shot and die down, close out AH and cancel your account.  After all, in real life pilots only got one life.


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[splitatom]

Originally posted by Saxman
At least some jams were a charge failure, and the pilot could clear it by attempting to recharge the guns.

Regarding engine overheats:

Some simulators SERIOUSLY overdo the effects of engine temperature (Il-2 NEVER fixed the bug where the F4U engine overheats after about a minute at full power, even with cowl flaps open). Someone around here posted test data where radial and liquid-cooled engines were run continuously at WEP for several hours, and afterwards when the engines were disassembled there wasn't any major damage found.

As far as being able to pickle off a single 1k egg from 30k and hitting the target, the reason for this is that HTC DRASTICALLY simplified bombing because people complained about it being too hard.

The reason high-altitude bombers needed a whole formation to knock down a handful of buildings is because:

A) The bombsight wasn't as accurate as popular history makes it out.

B) Factors such as wind and drift would scatter ordinance off-target

C) Only the lead plane actually bombed from its site. The rest of the formation released when the leader released WITHOUT AIMING. If the lead plane miscalculated the drop, the entire formation would be off.

It had nothing to do with whether a bomb was a dud or not. They carpet-bombed strictly because it was easier to hit the target with a mass of bombs, rather than being pin-point accurate.

Now, none of these factors occur in the game. The bomb site, once calibrated, is laser-accurate. There's no wind or drift of bombs. And it's very rare to see a historical-type bombing raid with everyone dropping with the leader. Instead the mission may get TO target in formation, but then everyone spreads out and individually aims and drops their ordinance.

yes that was true but the norten bombsight could actualy put a bomb in a pickleberal from 10,000 if conditions were perfect and yes only the first bomber actualy amed they relesed at the same time:aok

[splitatom]

Originally posted by NHawk
You're off a 0...

At at an altitude of 20,000 - 50,000 feet the winds can be up to 200mph. More typical is 100 to 150 mph. It's called a jet stream.

they actualy had winds of like 300 sometimes which ment that the b-29 on some days were going about 600 mph and somedays like about 16 mph thus is why we went to lightiing things on fire which required about no acuracy

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by splitatom
yes that was true but the norten bombsight could actualy put a bomb in a pickleberal from 10,000 if conditions were perfect

Myth.  


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