What's the #1 fighter?

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by Lusche
Something went wrong with cut&paste.. the planes are ranked correctly, but the k/d values of the second half are not.

Oops.  Forgot to drag the K/D w/the plane.  Oh well, not doing it again.  

[EDIT]  Oops again, I also left the A20 in the non-perk fighters list.

[EDIT]  OK, I lied... I re-did it:

Fighters only:

Tempest   6.18
Me 262   5.81
Me 163B   5.71
F4U-1C   2.58
F4U-4   2.54
Typhoon IB   1.53
Hurricane Mk IIC   1.47
Bf 109K-4   1.46
Ki-84-Ia   1.38
Fw 190D-9   1.33

Non-perk FIGHTERS only:

Typhoon IB   1.53
Hurricane Mk IIC   1.47
Bf 109K-4   1.46
Ki-84-Ia   1.38
Fw 190D-9   1.33
P-38J   1.32
Ki-61   1.32
F4U-1A   1.32
P-47-D25   1.27
Fw 190A-5   1.24

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Viking
The P-47N is the fastest prop plane in the game. Second fastest is the Ta 152. Third: Bf 109K-4. Fourth: Spitfire XIV. Fifth: P-51D.

I believe the Tempest is in the top 10 somewhere, but not in the top 5.


Deck speed on the other hand...

The F4U-4 edges out the 109K for third fastest. 453 mph at 26,700 feet. The P-51B is faster than the D, 443 mph vs 441 mph. Nonetheless, your point is well taken. The Tempest is only the fastest at sea level, and at 16,000 feet, the P-51B and Fw 190D-9 are equal in speed to the Tempest.

My regards,

Widewing

[Viking]

You are right of course; I always seem to forget the -4 for some reason.

[Adonai]

Originally posted by Viking
The P-47N is the fastest prop plane in the game. Second fastest is the Ta 152. Third: Bf 109K-4. Fourth: Spitfire XIV. Fifth: P-51D.

I believe the Tempest is in the top 10 somewhere, but not in the top 5.


Deck speed on the other hand...

P-47N is not fastest, only at Alt it can sustain it with wep on, however F4u-4 can match the P47N at alt without Wep on.

Tempest on other hand is like the F4u-4, has a very nice blend of acceleration and sea level speed that makes it the fastest, along with an empty Typhoon can be pretty darn fast on the deck as well. Speed alone is just a factor, P-51B is probably top 5 as fastest on the deck but guns wise I doubt it will ever hold a high k/d ratio

[trotter]

Originally posted by GFShill
because in my opinion the Spitfire Mk VIII is the top knight of the skies

Well, nothing that can be called "top" in the skies is a knight


KIDDING


Best planes: F4U-4


That is all

[Viking]

Originally posted by Adonai
P-47N is not fastest, only at Alt it can sustain it with wep on, however F4u-4 can match the P47N at alt without Wep on.

I don't know what you're trying to say here, but at 470+ mph at 30k (probably faster at higher alt) the P-47N is clearly the fastest (unless the Ta 152 overtakes the P-47N at higher alts, no data available).

[Anaxogoras]

Viking, the point is that there are never any fights at 30k ft in the lwma.   You really want to be at 20k ft or higher before the P-47N starts to outshine its rivals.

On the deck a lot of the mediocre aircraft can run down the P-47N without too much difficulty, which makes your statement misleading, because what really counts for the arenas is the best IAS, not TAS.  Fwiw, I rarely see P-47N's in the arenas, but I do see a few D-models because of the perk points.

Of the non-perked aircraft, I see more Spit 16's than anything else.

[kilz]

Originally posted by Viking
I don't know what you're trying to say here, but at 470+ mph at 30k (probably faster at higher alt) the P-47N is clearly the fastest (unless the Ta 152 overtakes the P-47N at higher alts, no data available).

the TA-152 best preforms at 48,000 feet at if i remember right 496 MPH i would have to look it up tomorrow

[Adonai]

Originally posted by Viking
I don't know what you're trying to say here, but at 470+ mph at 30k (probably faster at higher alt) the P-47N is clearly the fastest (unless the Ta 152 overtakes the P-47N at higher alts, no data available).

incorrect.

Performance of the P-47N-5-RE included a maximum speed of 397 mph at 10,000 feet, 448 mph at at 25,000 feet, and 460 mph at 30,000 feet

Me-109k14 had top speed 470mph at 30k as reported in few flight tests

Ta-152 Maximum speed: 759 km/h at 12,500 m using GM-1 boost (472 mph at 41,000 ft using GM-1 boost)

Now this is using hi-octane fuel at those alts as well, as fuel declined in germany the planes wern't getting those speeds as on paper due to cheaper refinement of the fuel. Even at those speeds your never clearing doing 460 or 472 unless some how you plan on chasing a plane down even then i'd give Ta-152 a win over P47N at those alts (from a few fights myself in FSO and Snapshots)

if Do-335 would of been in service in 1945 to combat the P47N it would clearly match the P47N in speed easily at 480mph at 30k

[kilz]

Originally posted by Adonai
incorrect.

Performance of the P-47N-5-RE included a maximum speed of 397 mph at 10,000 feet, 448 mph at at 25,000 feet, and 460 mph at 30,000 feet

Me-109k14 had top speed 470mph at 30k as reported in few flight tests

Ta-152 Maximum speed: 759 km/h at 12,500 m using GM-1 boost (472 mph at 41,000 ft using GM-1 boost)

Now this is using hi-octane fuel at those alts as well, as fuel declined in germany the planes wern't getting those speeds as on paper due to cheaper refinement of the fuel. Even at those speeds your never clearing doing 460 or 472 unless some how you plan on chasing a plane down even then i'd give Ta-152 a win over P47N at those alts (from a few fights myself in FSO and Snapshots)

if Do-335 would of been in service in 1945 to combat the P47N it would clearly match the P47N in speed easily at 480mph at 30k

getem boy getem

[Adonai]

Rawr kilz

[Viking]

Originally posted by Adonai
incorrect.

Performance of the P-47N-5-RE included a maximum speed of 397 mph at 10,000 feet, 448 mph at at 25,000 feet, and 460 mph at 30,000 feet

Me-109k14 had top speed 470mph at 30k as reported in few flight tests

Ta-152 Maximum speed: 759 km/h at 12,500 m using GM-1 boost (472 mph at 41,000 ft using GM-1 boost)

Now this is using hi-octane fuel at those alts as well, as fuel declined in germany the planes wern't getting those speeds as on paper due to cheaper refinement of the fuel. Even at those speeds your never clearing doing 460 or 472 unless some how you plan on chasing a plane down even then i'd give Ta-152 a win over P47N at those alts (from a few fights myself in FSO and Snapshots)

if Do-335 would of been in service in 1945 to combat the P47N it would clearly match the P47N in speed easily at 480mph at 30k

You seem to be arguing about real-life performance ... in a thread about a game. Get some perspective.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Anaxogoras
Viking, the point is that there are never any fights at 30k ft in the lwma.   You really want to be at 20k ft or higher before the P-47N starts to outshine its rivals.

On the deck a lot of the mediocre aircraft can run down the P-47N without too much difficulty, which makes your statement misleading, because what really counts for the arenas is the best IAS, not TAS.  Fwiw, I rarely see P-47N's in the arenas, but I do see a few D-models because of the perk points.

Of the non-perked aircraft, I see more Spit 16's than anything else.

Altitude was not a consideration in the original premise.

[Adonai]

Originally posted by Viking
You seem to be arguing about real-life performance ... in a thread about a game. Get some perspective.

Actually if the games historically accurate, your list of planes that are fastest would be incorrect. Im not arguing just helping you get the facts correct

[Viking]

This thread is about the planes in this game, and how they perform in this game. If you have any complaints or grievances to the accuracy of the game I suggest you make your own thread, preferably in the Aircraft and Vehicle forum.

I don't really care how these planes performed in real life 60+ years ago. It is pretty irrelevant.